Mike Hunt Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 The worst bit of transfer business in our history Would love to know the story who identified him as worth spaffing all that money on Was it his dad that convinced Carlos and Mr C to do it ? The first couple of games I saw him play for us he was running like he was towing a caravan , I thought he was Just unfit but that was not the case . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Don’t personally believe the theory that’s he’s simply lost pace. He’s never been fast, strong or even good on the ball. For me we signed a player who is nothing more than a bog liner and expected more. We simply haven’t ever made him the main man and let him do what he’s good at... bog line. I believe if someone makes him the main man and gets the team playing around him and playing to his strengths he will score plenty of goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, 0114 said: Don’t personally believe the theory that’s he’s simply lost pace. He’s never been fast, strong or even good on the ball. For me we signed a player who is nothing more than a bog liner and expected more. We simply haven’t ever made him the main man and let him do what he’s good at... bog line. I believe if someone makes him the main man and gets the team playing around him and playing to his strengths he will score plenty of goals. Where is the que ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He’s lost his way but it’s not all his fault. Football is now at lot less open than it was, too many managers are afraid to play an open game. Probably needs to drop down a level to regain some confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, 0114 said: Don’t personally believe the theory that’s he’s simply lost pace. He’s never been fast, strong or even good on the ball. For me we signed a player who is nothing more than a bog liner and expected more. We simply haven’t ever made him the main man and let him do what he’s good at... bog line. I believe if someone makes him the main man and gets the team playing around him and playing to his strengths he will score plenty of goals. This is my belief too I think he needs a run in the side as vs Forest last season he proved he does still have it in his locker. Maybe FF and Fletch leaving will be a blessing and he can finally find some form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommowl Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Personal reasons maybe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 0114 said: Don’t personally believe the theory that’s he’s simply lost pace. He’s never been fast, strong or even good on the ball. For me we signed a player who is nothing more than a bog liner and expected more. We simply haven’t ever made him the main man and let him do what he’s good at... bog line. I believe if someone makes him the main man and gets the team playing around him and playing to his strengths he will score plenty of goals. Big problem, by setting a team up to pander to his particular style of play, might well get him scoring, but to the detriment of the teams success. Even when he was scoring goals, his teams never won naff all, he’s made a career out of scoring consolation goals Edited September 8, 2020 by gurujuan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: Big problem, by setting a team up to pander to his particular style of play, might well get him scoring, but to the detriment of the teams success. Even when he was scoring goals, his teams never won naff all, he’s make a career out of scoring consolation goals Mate, i'd take consolation goals all day long if it actually means us getting the ball anywhere near the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, Carbone said: Agreed, he's thrived when he's been around poor-average players by Championship standard. So he should score a bag full for us this season then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Norwich seemed to like him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Pointless question to ask after 3+1/2yrs. Not interested in a cure anymore. Just want him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Animis said: Norwich seemed to like him. Very true, it was only the Championship top scorer that season Pukki keeping him out of the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, 0114 said: Don’t personally believe the theory that’s he’s simply lost pace. He’s never been fast, strong or even good on the ball. For me we signed a player who is nothing more than a bog liner and expected more. We simply haven’t ever made him the main man and let him do what he’s good at... bog line. I believe if someone makes him the main man and gets the team playing around him and playing to his strengths he will score plenty of goals. I'm 48, overweight and unfit, have never played football at a decent level, but I reckon if the entire team setup and game plan was changed to work on providing me with open goals 6 yards out I'd bag 20 a season easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, IWEDFM said: True but even when we did attack under Carlos in his first couple of seasons he wasn't the player he once was and he was only 27/28 at the time Carlos seemed to want him to be a target man and have Winnall playoff him. That seemed to be the dynamic when they played anyway. As is painfull obvious to everyone but carlos, Rhodes isn't a target man. Against Leicester, Rhodes' movement and energy was good, he was where you'd want him to be when you'd want him to be there, so that bodes well should he actually get a run of games under Monk finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, Carbone said: He never scored goals in a good team. Like Bony who went to Man City, was very good at average sides before that and failed at City. I've never known our fanbase be so patient with one player. Others get abuse after a couple of bad performances, after nearly 4 years of nothing some of our fans still say "he just needs the service". Pretty sure Rhodes has had his fair share of abuse. I think fans show a bit of tolerance, as with winnall, because he doesn’t seem to get a decent run of games to put any sort of form together. Plus, he was a key part of the Norwich squad that got promoted to the premier league while on loan from us. It’s a puzzle as to why he hasn’t done well here but for me there’s more to it than him losing his way. He’s a good striker at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He's probably reading this thread and it's set him back another 12 month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Carbone said: He never scored goals in a good team. Like Bony who went to Man City, was very good at average sides before that and failed at City. I've never known our fanbase be so patient with one player. Others get abuse after a couple of bad performances, after nearly 4 years of nothing some of our fans still say "he just needs the service". Agree. If someone passed me the ball in the penalty area id score a few too. Twenty years ago. Actually thirty bleedin ell! Edited September 8, 2020 by Nero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He just looks scared to death. I just think his confidence is shot. Feel for the bloke, I really do. Never have I wanted a player to score more than I do Jordan Rhodes. He doesn't strike me as a confident sort of character and I believe with some of the gobby players we have had in our dressing room over the years it has made him go into his shell more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffwed1 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Animis said: Norwich seemed to like him. obviously not that much... they would only take him on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, 109Waddle said: Pretty sure Rhodes has had his fair share of abuse. I think fans show a bit of tolerance, as with winnall, because he doesn’t seem to get a decent run of games to put any sort of form together. Plus, he was a key part of the Norwich squad that got promoted to the premier league while on loan from us. It’s a puzzle as to why he hasn’t done well here but for me there’s more to it than him losing his way. He’s a good striker at this level. He's had plenty of starts at Wednesday, particularly in his first year and a half, and he just hasn't delivered. As for being "a key part of the Norwich squad that got promoted" - he didn't play more than 20 minutes in a game for them that season after the end of October. In their final 30 league games there were 24 games when he either didn't play (12 times) or got on for 5 minutes or less (also 12 times) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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