IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 What has happened to him? I remember whenever we played opposition teams he was in i'd fear the worst as he was deadly. That 4-4 Huddersfield match still gives me nightmares to this day Like most I was chuffed to bits when we signed him although at the time I wasn't sure about the fee as it seemed excessive but he was a guarenteed goalscorer so it didn't seem such a risk 3 years on and he's a shadow of his former self, the poacher that once struck fear into defences just doesn't seem to have it in him anymore although his hat-trick away at Forest last season would suggest otherwise. They weren't lucky deflections or tap ins but clinical finishes Is it a matter of tactics, bad management or is he genuinely not interested? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressman 1 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Pace has gone along with his belief, however gets little service here spends half his time going backwards he is a box man and we don't exactly attack games do we 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 That Huddersfield game was almost nine years ago; and in a lower league 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Pressman 1 said: Pace has gone along with his belief, however gets little service here spends half his time going backwards he is a box man and we don't exactly attack games do we True but even when we did attack under Carlos in his first couple of seasons he wasn't the player he once was and he was only 27/28 at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, thewookieisdown said: That Huddersfield game was almost nine years ago; and in a lower league I get that but it wasn't that long ago he was banging them in for fun at this level when he was at Blackburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He never scored goals in a good team. Like Bony who went to Man City, was very good at average sides before that and failed at City. I've never known our fanbase be so patient with one player. Others get abuse after a couple of bad performances, after nearly 4 years of nothing some of our fans still say "he just needs the service". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Confidence and belief I think. He’s never been that quick or physical but he seemed to think quicker than the opponent and anticipate things better. Perhaps with the move to more technical players this hasn’t helped as the game is more about speed and quick thinking now. But some of the chances missed, his general demeanour and those pea roller pens just make me think he has lost his way. He seemed to re find it when he arrived here and got a home debut goal but that penalty miss at Leeds saw him crumble from there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Bluesteel said: Confidence and belief I think. He’s never been that quick or physical but he seemed to think quicker than the opponent and anticipate things better. Perhaps with the move to more technical players this hasn’t helped as the game is more about speed and quick thinking now. But some of the chances missed, his general demeanour and those pea roller pens just make me think he has lost his way. He seemed to re find it when he arrived here and got a home debut goal but that penalty miss at Leeds saw him crumble from there. Agreed, he's thrived when he's been around poor-average players by Championship standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Carbone said: He never scored goals in a good team. Like Bony who went to Man City, was very good at average sides before that and failed at City. I've never known our fanbase be so patient with one player. Others get abuse after a couple of bad performances, after nearly 4 years of nothing some of our fans still say "he just needs the service". The huge fee we splashed out probably has a lot to do with it It's hope more than anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Carbone said: He never scored goals in a good team. Like Bony who went to Man City, was very good at average sides before that and failed at City. I've never known our fanbase be so patient with one player. Others get abuse after a couple of bad performances, after nearly 4 years of nothing some of our fans still say "he just needs the service". Are you implying we’re a good team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He was bought to guarantee us promotion and appease the supporters. He went very, very close to winning us the play-off semi V Huddersfield in extra time. He didn’t take a penalty in the shoot out although Hutch and FF missed theirs. (He missed a big one at Leeds previously). The rest is history really but not everything in life works out unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He was a shadow of his former self before we paid all that money for him He’s never been a great footballer but thrived in an era when forwards weren’t expected to contribute in other areas He’s failed to adapt his own game, as the game itself has changed. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: He was bought to guarantee us promotion and appease the supporters. He went very, very close to winning us the play-off semi V Huddersfield in extra time. He didn’t take a penalty in the shoot out although Hutch and FF missed theirs. (He missed a big one at Leeds previously). The rest is history really but not everything in life works out unfortunately. Did he miss a good chance? I genuinely can’t remember. I remember thinking FF was about to score from 6 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Bluesteel said: Did he miss a good chance? I genuinely can’t remember. I remember thinking FF was about to score from 6 yards. Their keeper got down really low to finger tip it away. It was going in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, gurujuan said: He was a shadow of his former self before we paid all that money for him He’s never been a great footballer but thrived in an era when forwards weren’t expected to contribute in other areas He’s failed to adapt his own game, as the game itself has changed. Not sure it’s just that. Tell that to Billy Sharp or the Forest defence last season. Its something down to him as an individual. I think he seems like a good guy and perhaps even too nice at times and football seems an unforgiving profession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Also we don't ever really play to his strengths, hes better in a front 2 with a target man, but rarely has the opportunity here, we generally play one up front, apart from this seasons none up front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Confidence, lost that goal scoring touch. He’s never been particularly quick or strong. His career was being in the right place at the right time, but he’s just lost that it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 The Rhodes situation reminds me of when we had Clinton Morrison, I remember thinking what a great signing at the time but he just flattered to deceive but the difference was Morrison was a free transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, gurujuan said: He was a shadow of his former self before we paid all that money for him He’s never been a great footballer but thrived in an era when forwards weren’t expected to contribute in other areas He’s failed to adapt his own game, as the game itself has changed. Spot on. It is a different game to when he was scoring had driedup before we signed him. Was a poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 He's a flake. At the end of the day what sort of centre forward won't take a penalty? He's not even willing to work on that issue by talking one v Walsall in the 1st round of the league cup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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