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3 hours ago, H2Owl said:

Sadly for us we rarely sell, so a £3 million outlay is exactly that for FFP. We sign players, let them run down their contracts and leave for nothing. Scandalous way to run the run the club, and that's the reason we can't afford him.

 

Will be a great signing for another club though at that price. No brainer.

Do we have any leaway with the sale of hillsborough, or have the funds already been allocated. 

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6 hours ago, The_Limit_Owl said:

 

Prices on a level with every other club in the division, keep peddling the myth though eh!

 

You didn't reply to this when I responded to a similar post of yours on this subject on Friday but I'll try again anyway....

 

I didn't mind when Chansiri put the season ticket prices up as it reflected the added investment in the team. Our season tickets have been comparatively expensive since before he took over. We had a bottom 6 budget in this division prior to 2015 but not bottom 6 prices.

 

However this table doesn't suggest we are reasonably priced in comparison to the rest of the division, although it was from 2 seasons ago:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41482931

 

 

In terms of away prices, this article suggests we charged the second highest average price to away fans in 2018-19 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/eye-watering-costs-following-championship-16689129

 

 

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3 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

You didn't reply to this when I responded to a similar post of yours on this subject on Friday but I'll try again anyway....

 

I didn't mind when Chansiri put the season ticket prices up as it reflected the added investment in the team. Our season tickets have been comparatively expensive since before he took over. We had a bottom 6 budget in this division prior to 2015 but not bottom 6 prices.

 

However this table doesn't suggest we are reasonably priced in comparison to the rest of the division, although it was from 2 seasons ago:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41482931

 

 

In terms of away prices, this article suggests we charged the second highest average price to away fans in 2018-19 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/eye-watering-costs-following-championship-16689129

 

 

Save your breath.

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2 hours ago, Daizan10 said:

Did you believe him? If we want to only get 12 points deducted we cant spend anywhere near the amount he did when he took over. 

Then he shouldn’t have made the promise if he couldn’t keep it.

 

A reminder of what we were told....

 

A) Would you prefer the prices at Sheffield Wednesday across the board, for example Season Tickets, matchday tickets, official merchandise, corporate hospitality, were reduced to previous eras? The consequence of this would be the sale of key senior players, regular promotion to the first team of academy youngsters and a reduced level of investment.

Answer: Yes 29.94% No 70.06%

B) Alternatively, would you prefer the club to build on the current level of investment, maintain the pricing structure, and extend our ongoing strategy geared towards promotion to the Premier League.

Answer: Yes: 70.14%  No: 29.86%

 

https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2018/february/owls-thank-supporters/

 

 

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9 hours ago, TrickyTrev said:

Dejphon Chansiri told fans that if prices remained high, we would see continued investment in the first team squad at the levels we’d seen when he arrived.

 

The fans have kept their side of the bargain and continued to pay these ridiculously high prices, now’s the time for him to keep his.

 

When you look at some of the fees clubs in the Championship are paying for players, £3m for Jacob Murphy is good value.


you know he can’t do that because of FFP rules. 
 

let’s stop fantasising and be realistic. 

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9 hours ago, TrickyTrev said:

Dejphon Chansiri told fans that if prices remained high, we would see continued investment in the first team squad at the levels we’d seen when he arrived.

 

The fans have kept their side of the bargain and continued to pay these ridiculously high prices, now’s the time for him to keep his.

 

When you look at some of the fees clubs in the Championship are paying for players, £3m for Jacob Murphy is good value.

A small matter of FFP.

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32 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said:


you know he can’t do that because of FFP rules. 
 

let’s stop fantasising and be realistic. 

Then he shouldn’t have made the promise in the first place.

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11 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

He'd be a great signing at that price; unfortunately, I doubt we can pay it.

 

It makes the £3m we wasted on Abdi all the more frustrating, doesn't it?

2m Stevie May

3m Abdi 

10m Rhodes

2m Jones

4m JVA

3m Matias

And the wages for above + Boyd etc

 

Tens of millions down the toilet 

 

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You’d think this was a no brainer if we could afford it.

 

That said, the thought of us spending any money on a player would be foolhardy given our track record.

 

Our fees paid literally go one way, out of the door!!! We regress players, they become worthless under our stewardship. We cannot add value to a player and sell down the line for a profit. It’s beyond our ability to operate in this way, a model so many other clubs currently use to great effect.

 

Unfortunately, all evidence suggests that us paying a fee is throwing money down the drain. Working within the P&S guidelines is difficult anyway, more so if you only ever recoup a fraction of your transfer spending in sales.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DuttyTeabags said:

2m Stevie May

3m Abdi 

10m Rhodes

2m Jones

4m JVA

3m Matias

And the wages for above + Boyd etc

 

Tens of millions down the toilet 

 

Where on earth did you get £2m for Stevie May from? He was just shy of a million wasn't he?

 

For the 723rd time, we did NOT, I repeat NOT spend £4m on JvA. That was an Owlstalk myth. Please stop repeating it.

 

Matias did not cost £3m did he? If I recall correctly, Joao and Matias came in a double move costing £3m.

 

 

No one will debate we haven't done the hypothetical pissíng of money up the wall, but there's just no need to lie about the above to make that point.

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...and I've never seen fees suggested as high as those for Jones and Rhodes either.

 

I think Abdi's is about the only that looks reasonably accurate.

 

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8 hours ago, DJMortimer said:

...and I've never seen fees suggested as high as those for Jones and Rhodes either.

 

I think Abdi's is about the only that looks reasonably accurate.

 

Split it how you like but between the 1 June 2015 and 31 July 2018, Wednesday agreed to pay other clubs £37.243m for player registrations. There were others smaller deals  and I may have forgotten  some but the annual amounts and major deals I can recall each year were 


15/16 £12.666m (FF, Matias, Jaoa)

16/17 £11.629m (AA, Jones, Hooper perm, Winall)

17/18 £12.948m (Rhodes perm, JVA, Pelupessy)

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11 hours ago, TrickyTrev said:

Then he shouldn’t have made the promise in the first place.


He committed the cash - in fact he committed too much cash. 
 

It was wasted on becoming a last big pay day for a number of ageing unmotivated 2hats.

 

You can’t re-write history. Like it or not, we need to re-group, cut our cloth and hope the Chairman has learnt a very, very costly lesson. 

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4 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said:


He committed the cash - in fact he committed too much cash. 
 

It was wasted on becoming a last big pay day for a number of ageing unmotivated 2hats.

 

You can’t re-write history. Like it or not, we need to re-group, cut our cloth and hope the Chairman has learnt a very, very costly lesson. 

I’m not rewriting history, I’m just highlighting where the chairman said that if ticket prices remained high, we would see a continued level of investment in the first team with the eventual goal of promotion to the Premier League.

 

He also said he could reduce ticket prices but the consequence of this would be the possible sale of first team players and more youth promoted to the first team squad.

 

Like most fans I took him on his word and voted for option A.

 

With hindsight he should have probably added a third option where we keep ticket prices high, don’t sell any of our players, let them go for free instead and promote more youth into the first team squad.... although I’m not sure many fans would have gone for that.

 

As I said, he shouldn’t make promises he can’t keep, it just p***es fans off who can barely afford to attend matches as it is and leaves them feeling short changed.

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14 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

You didn't reply to this when I responded to a similar post of yours on this subject on Friday but I'll try again anyway....

 

I didn't mind when Chansiri put the season ticket prices up as it reflected the added investment in the team. Our season tickets have been comparatively expensive since before he took over. We had a bottom 6 budget in this division prior to 2015 but not bottom 6 prices.

 

However this table doesn't suggest we are reasonably priced in comparison to the rest of the division, although it was from 2 seasons ago:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41482931

 

 

In terms of away prices, this article suggests we charged the second highest average price to away fans in 2018-19 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/eye-watering-costs-following-championship-16689129

 

 

 

I didn't reply because you're pulling out irrelevant stats!   Some from 2 seasons ago ST prices and away prices!

 

Put the latest POTG prices for home fans from all Championship clubs, that's where the myth will be busted, in fact the myth will be smashed to smithereens!!

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