areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Been discussing this exact issue with Neil in a different thread and only just noticed he's started a whole thread on the same topic! As I've said elsewhere: to me, that sounds like Monk and Reach both recognise that he's not a natural fit out wide in the system we're likely to be using from the start of most games this season. Therefore, unless we sell him - and let's face it, his value is rock-bottom right now - then we need to find a position for him. He's not a natural central attacking midfielder either, but I can see the logic in playing him further up the pitch where he might at least be able to play to his strengths a bit more than at wingback where his defensive frailties will be more exposed. It sounds as if Monk and Reach are both aware that he's a winger, but seeing as we're not going to be using wingers too often, we need to try something else with him. Unless he finds some form, I doubt he'll be used on a regular basis, but we're going to need every player in our squad at some point during the season. If that means Reach makes the odd appearance as an attacking midfielder, then fair enough. Post lockdown, Reach featured for 191 out of a possible 810 minutes. 3 times he was subbed on as an attacking midfielder; once he started as an attacking midfielder; twice he was subbed on at left wingback; and once he started at left wingback. Unless another club makes us an offer for Reach, then he's a Wednesday player; we're going to have to use him at some point. Given that he's got one year left on his contract, is reportedly on around £20k per week, and has just had the worst season of his career, we'd do well to find any takers. Edited September 7, 2020 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Several years of financial incompetence is now coming home to roost. We can't just go out and spend £15m on a few strikers because we want to. This is the place we are in now, because of mistake after mistake yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Get rid ..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Wonder what Reach is like as a goalkeeper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, erowl said: I'll bet Beatts is delighted to have these weapons at his disposal ... Reach n Rhodes So we didn't sign kahcunga or windass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Dot said: Wonder what Reach is like as a goalkeeper Better than 'Westy' 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 TBF he has more chance of being a striker than Jordan Rhodes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryPlopper Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) I don't want Reach as a striker, but if he is to be played there lets give him some consistency and stop moving him around the pitch. Give him, like you would wish for ANY striker a good run of games and not drop them after a couple of games without a goal. He gets a lot of abuse right now for not hitting form, but how can he attain any kind of form when his remit is different almost every game? Edited September 7, 2020 by HarryPlopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, bladeshater said: So we didn't sign kahcunga or windass Depends if you're classing them as strikers? Their goals for column wouldn't suggest that's what they are. They might get a dozen between them this season ... I don't see much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 This details that Adam Reach has only once in his professional career played as a centre forward. It also highlights how much he's been moved around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said: he is trying to send a message to chansiri This is what I thought may be the case with the Walsall game. This is a perfect storm of a story for the fans: A player that doesn’t fit in lately being used as a striker, after being used in the past as a LB, LWB, LM, CM and RM by a manager that the jury is still out on* because we have one (?) other forward at the club * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, HarryPlopper said: I don't want Reach as a striker, but if he is to be played there lets give him some consistency and stop moving him around the pitch. He gets a lot of abuse right now for not hitting form, but how can he attain any kind of form when his remit is different almost every game? You’re bang right but that makes the decision all the more confusing. It seems the decision is set in stone before he’s even been tried there. It’s not like declaring Palmer is now a centre back in the 3, because he has had games there. Reach has never played in a front two from the start for us as far as I’m aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Maybe we could try Reach as manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryPlopper Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: You’re bang right but that makes the decision all the more confusing. It seems the decision is set in stone before he’s even been tried there. It’s not like declaring Palmer is now a centre back in the 3, because he has had games there. Reach has never played in a front two from the start for us as far as I’m aware. Many confusing things on show on the pitch right now. I hope he's getting some extra coaching too. He pulls far too wide too often right now, and that was against a 4th tier side. He needs drilling, lets hope he gets some serious one on one time with Beattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, erowl said: Depends if you're classing them as strikers? Their goals for column wouldn't suggest that's what they are. They might get a dozen between them this season ... I don't see much more I reckon monk will be looking for about 10 a piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, modboy said: cash in on him Monk, who'd have him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: I reckon monk will be looking for about 10 a piece Past stats don't suggest it mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: To me it reads that no one will sign for us so we are up the creek. Yeah but Neil said Monk attracts all these players. They want to play for Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Been discussing this exact issue with Neil in a different thread and only just noticed he's started a whole thread on the same topic! As I've said elsewhere: to me, that sounds like Monk and Reach both recognise that he's not a natural fit out wide in the system we're likely to be using from the start of most games this season. Therefore, unless we sell him - and let's face it, his value is rock-bottom right now - then we need to find a position for him. He's not a natural central attacking midfielder either, but I can see the logic in playing him further up the pitch where he might at least be able to play to his strengths a bit more than at wingback where his defensive frailties will be more exposed. It sounds as if Monk and Reach are both aware that he's a winger, but seeing as we're not going to be using wingers too often, we need to try something else with him. Unless he finds some form, I doubt he'll be used on a regular basis, but we're going to need every player in our squad at some point during the season. If that means Reach makes the odd appearance as an attacking midfielder, then fair enough. Post lockdown, Reach featured for 191 out of a possible 810 minutes. 3 times he was subbed on as an attacking midfielder; once he started as an attacking midfielder; twice he was subbed on at left wingback; and once he started at left wingback. Unless another club makes us an offer for Reach, then he's a Wednesday player; we're going to have to use him at some point. Given that he's got one year left on his contract, is reportedly on around £20k per week, and has just had the worst season of his career, we'd do well to find any takers. Why not use a system that suits our players then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, erowl said: Past stats don't suggest it mate Kahcunga as in the past I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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