Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, cowl said: But to the chances of the team? Do you really think that it does? What gets said at the games is different, mind. I think then it can have an obvious impact (even if some do exaggerate it). The same is true about Twitter (and any similar social media platforms) in my opinion since the players obviously use it. But it seems to me that on here is the right and proper place for however fans are going to express themselves. If players wonder onto here though then they're foolishly disrespecting the boundaries and I hope the club would actively discourage (even enforce, and with fines if need be) them from doing so. I meant maybe it does maybe it doesnt about debates but I 100% agree about social media platforms! And I agree about players being discouraged from viewing fans forums too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Salli said: A thread like this was always going to make people defensive, or a chance to attack the 'negative nigels' for venting their well earned concerns and disappointments. I just don't get the unconditional approach that some people take when following a team. It's my 1st thread topic I didn't honestly realise some of the reaction but having read and responded I see it now! Didn't think there would be such binary responses but apologies fella I'm certainly not unconditional support I've seen mainly failure since I supported wednesday to be fair Slight edit - maybe this has made me slightly more accommodating or some may say forgiving of mediocrity I dunno? Edited September 6, 2020 by Chris Apolon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Chris Apolon said: It's my 1st thread topic I didn't honestly realise some of the reaction but having read and responded I see it now! Didn't think there would be such binary responses but apologies fella I'm certainly not unconditional support I've seen mainly failure since I supported wednesday to be fair Sometimes it's best to log off and let the negative Nigel's get on with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, bladeshater said: Sometimes it's best to log off and let the negative Nigel's get on with it I'm happy to discuss anything with anyone, I'm not sure negativity is done out of anything but good faith for the club in the same way my attempted look to the future post was (was supposed to be!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 There really are some negative Nigels on here. It is like a race to stick the knife in the most to prove some kind of superior intellect, which makes up for a somethjing else lacking in their life. Any oppertunity to attack our chairman. Yes he's made mistakes, but has clearly learned from them as we evolve our approach. Come what may we need to support our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: Sometimes it's best to log off and let the negative Nigel's get on with it Agreed. We Nigels prefer it when all the Positive Pauls have logged off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, cowl said: Agreed. We Nigels prefer it when all the Positive Pauls have logged off too. Can we use animals instead? Negative newts Positive penguins Apathetic anteaters Demotivated dolphins Blind faith bats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dear OP , there is a site on Facebook called the "Wednesday sing" where anyone who doesn't think everything is Rosie gets banned. That may be the site for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salli Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, timrud said: Come what may we need to support our club We don't need to do anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2020 keeps on giving...... From Happy Clappers and Bedwetters (bad enough) to Negative Nigels and Positive Pauls ffs!! Like reading fuckingHorrid Henry books to the kids at bedtime when they were little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Emilianenko said: Dear OP , there is a site on Facebook called the "Wednesday sing" where anyone who doesn't think everything is Rosie gets banned. That may be the site for you. Dear Emilianenko I dont think everything is rosie. Its not lost on me we start with -12 and have 1 striker. But...stranger things have happened than us actually starting a season well Also nobody wants to hear me sing, I've not sung since singing born to be wild at a karaoke 19 years ago. Retired at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: 2020 keeps on giving...... From Happy Clappers and Bedwetters (bad enough) to Negative Nigels and Positive Pauls ffs!! Like reading fuckingHorrid Henry books to the kids at bedtime when they were little. How about a horrible history book about the last 20 years? That would sell like hotcakes The bone idle bothroyd The free scoring fox in the box I could go on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said: I'm not saying don't criticise I'm saying support the upcoming season. Too many people criticising before a ball is even kicked in the league You're implying that the fans that criticise don't support the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: You're implying that the fans that criticise don't support the team. Not my intention apologies on reading it back I can see it reading like that too. Supporting doesn't absolve teams of criticism, I will and have criticised, i was trying to say im going to see how we perform in the league first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Salli said: We don't need to do anything. You don't think we need to support our team? I've really heard it all now. Either you have an immense sense of self entitlement, or you are a pig. Regardless, a forum for supporters probably isn't the place for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I think its fair to say that people’s general mental health has been somewhat poor over the last 6 months, due to a worldwide pandemic and in no way shape or form related to football. I think football and the plight this particular club has found itself in gives people a mere platform to take out their frustrations. There’s nothing wrong with that I don’t think, and equally if we actually had a successful last season, it would have brought 1000s of people in this city, across this country and abroad together (socially distanced of course). The fans have a right to say whatever they want, but I’m with the OP on this and that given the world has found itself in such a state the last several months, we should at least try and have just one small bit of optimism. It could go a long way, you never know. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Sefton owl said: The fans have a right to say whatever they want, but I’m with the OP on this and that given the world has found itself in such a state the last several months, we should at least try and have just one small bit of optimism. It could go a long way, you never know. Sometimes you do. We could all be ultra positive on here beyond all reason - it will have absolutely no effect whatsoever on how the team plays. None. The notion that there's some causal effect between the two is mental. Edited September 6, 2020 by cowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 6 hours ago, prowl said: I wonder if anyone has counted the number of posts on Owlstak after a win and compared it to the number of posts after a loss. It might be interesting. I feel that the number after a loss would come out considerably higher. Certain posters never appear after a win but are all over the threads after a loss. Maybe I'm wrong. Disagree, I’m no statto, but I’m sure there’s more traffic on here when we’ve either played well / won / both. The negativity probably seems predominant right now due to the way we went downhill from January onwards. The negativity is understandable, but it’s generally the same people on a different thread. Its human nature, some people’s glasses are generally half empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, cowl said: Sometimes you do. We could all be ultra positive on here beyond all reason - it will have absolutely no effect whatsoever on how the team plays. None. The notion that there's some causal effect between the two is mental. On here it has no bearing. In the ground on match day the mood of the fans can affect the team. But I don’t think many people enjoy being insulted (personal insults are not constructive criticism)!whatever line of work. At best, it’s an unnecessary distraction. Edited September 6, 2020 by Sergeant Tibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Great original post, I applaud your sentiment and agree with you. Those who come on this forum would I presume call themselves fans or supporters but from the comments, you would wonder if they even know what it means to support a club. We all know this season will be tough it will be a hell of a lot tougher if we can't get behind all at the club. It's as if some just want us to fail just to say they were right. After all there are bigger things right now than football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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