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6 hours ago, @owlstalk said:


I think what this thread is proven beyond all doubt is that there are some that just don't want the Garry Monk era to be successful (they will claim otherwise of course), and that anyone found to be in disagreement with their stance that he's rubbish, the players could have been managed, the lack of preparation time between games, the loss of Fletcher, the Covid situation, the end of most of the first team's contracts and the looming threat of relegation from the EFL case - means that you will be jumped on for having a positive stance now that we are through all of that, have rid the clubs of bad eggs, overpaid players, started bringing fresh new players in, a brand new coaching and management structure, a new assistant manager etc etc


Some people can't/won't put aside their stubborn outdated views and actually give the manager a clean slate and a fair opportunity

Total rubbish.

 

Everyone wants the club to be successful and I find it insulting that people claim that fans want anything other.

 

Most (70% in the last poll?) just don't think Garry Monk is the man to make us successful.

 

He's obviously going to be the manager next season, so let's hope it's a good one.

 

He gets 10 games for me, then we can judge. Clean slate, not for me the last 44 games have been largely rubbish!

 

 

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Forgive me for not getting excited about the same Garry Monk and the same back room staff he has failed with before. Oh and the same players he couldn’t get to perform last season.

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10 hours ago, Anthndav said:

Andy Hughes is the real wildcard in that group. The others have all worked together before but I think the addition of Hughes will really keep that management unit on their own toes too and bring something refreshing to Monks Management Team.

True can we dispense with the rest and give him a go ?

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The fact that **** is still in charge tells me the Chairman isn’t bothered anymore? I could honestly see a scenario regardless of how sh!t we are that **** stays in charge until the Chairman sells up whenever if at all that may be?

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5 minutes ago, Jim said:

The fact that **** is still in charge tells me the Chairman isn’t bothered anymore? I could honestly see a scenario regardless of how sh!t we are that **** stays in charge until the Chairman sells up whenever if at all that may be?



You said Monk was getting sacked this summer Jim!


 


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3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:



You said Monk was getting sacked this summer Jim!

 

I did. I was wrong not for the first time and I’m sure certainly not for the last.

 

That said this has been done to death. A run like the manager had in the second half of the season usually results in the sack. In this case it hasn’t.

 

Is it due to Covid impacting finances? The points deduction? Or does the Chairman genuinely think he has the right man?

 

It could be any of those three reasons or even something else? I can see him getting the season regardless of how well or badly it goes TBH?

 

The recruitment hasn’t been bad. I think Brown in particular has been an astute signing. The lack of striker signings hasn’t surprised me though. I said we would go into the season with Rhodes and Hagan as our first choice strikers and there is still a chance I might be right?

 

FFS he doesn’t even rate Rhodes as his lack of involvement post lockdown showed? Come the end of the window we’ll more than likely have Windass and Da Cruz back? If this happens then this bright new era will still be the same crock of sh!t.

 

If we don’t win at least 3 of the first 5 games, the mood on here will be toxic and TBH given the way we’re being run at the minute this is what I’m totally expecting.

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34 minutes ago, jonnyowl said:

Total rubbish.

 

Everyone wants the club to be successful and I find it insulting that people claim that fans want anything other.

 

Most (70% in the last poll?) just don't think Garry Monk is the man to make us successful.

 

He's obviously going to be the manager next season, so let's hope it's a good one.

 

He gets 10 games for me, then we can judge. Clean slate, not for me the last 44 games have been largely rubbish!

 

 

Here is my View ,Monk has got his own coaches ,Not through his actions but we have a situation -12 points .He has got to sell the club to prospective recruits .I am ready to give him the clean slate ,We have some young lads that will make mistakes ,Am i glad no fan is allowed in ,Because some of you would crucify them .Monk did not get that -12 .So lets take what comes Support the Owls give these young lads the backing  they need .Leko opted to stay where he lives fine good luck to him ,He could be a crock anyway .Rhodes you owe this club big time now is the time we need you . Good luck to all at Sheffield Wednesday .WAWAW .

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7 minutes ago, Jim said:

 

I did. I was wrong not for the first time and I’m sure certainly not for the last.

That said this has been done to death. A run like the manager had in the second half of the season usually results in the sack. In this case it hasn’t.

Is it due to Covid impacting finances? The points deduction? Or does the Chairman genuinely think he has the right man?

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about :


1) The first half of the season
2) Most of the first team players contracts coming to an end
3) Steven Fletcher getting injured
4) Covid kicking in around March
5) The number of injuries in the first team
6) Not having his own management/coaching structure

7) Having more first team masseurs than first team coaches
8 ) The overhanging EFL charge meaning the club could be relegated
9) The club's finances being called into question
10)  Games coming every other day due to Covid meaning no real coaching could take place
11) Westwood deciding he was 'injured' again and the replacement keepers being really weak
12) The EFL Hearing 
13) Fletcher and Fox clearing off - arguably our two strongest players


etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

 

I  dont' know what you do for a living but..

1) It really cannot be managing people otherwise you'd understand the above points and it's impact on your ability to do your job properly
2) Whatever it is you do, if you were faced with all the above things hindering you there's no WAY you'd be able to perform

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2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about :


1) The first half of the season
2) Most of the first team players contracts coming to an end
3) Steven Fletcher getting injured
4) Covid kicking in around March
5) The number of injuries in the first team
6) Not having his own management/coaching structure

7) Having more first team masseurs than first team coaches
8 ) The overhanging EFL charge meaning the club could be relegated
9) The club's finances being called into question
10)  Games coming every other day due to Covid meaning no real coaching could take place
11) Westwood deciding he was 'injured' again and the replacement keepers being really weak
12) The EFL Hearing 
13) Fletcher and Fox clearing off - arguably our two strongest players


etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

 

I  dont' know what you do for a living but..

1) It really cannot be managing people otherwise you'd understand the above points and it's impact on your ability to do your job properly
2) Whatever it is you do, if you were faced with all the above things hindering you there's no WAY you'd be able to perform

 

I’m not saying he hasn’t been dealt a rough hand. He has.

 

That said he hasn’t helped himself. I still believe had he managed certain players better then he would’ve had Fletcher, Fox and Forestieri available for the rest of last season.

 

His decision to go with Dawson who let’s face it wouldn’t get into most league 1 or 2 sides was a total joke. Wildsmith in all fairness isn’t much better but one will be first choice next season. If Flahavan isn’t a miracle worker we are well and truly in the sh!t. Yet we have one of the best keepers in the championship sat on his ar$e drawing how many grand a week?

 

I don’t have confidence in him to do the job that’s required. It’s only a matter of time before this new found team spirit is unsettled due to **** falling out with someone else? It’s what he does everywhere he’s been?

 

As I’ve said before I hope he proves me wrong but unless he puts the team first rather than his own interests then I fear he won’t?

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14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about :


1) The first half of the season
2) Most of the first team players contracts coming to an end
3) Steven Fletcher getting injured
4) Covid kicking in around March
5) The number of injuries in the first team
6) Not having his own management/coaching structure

7) Having more first team masseurs than first team coaches
8 ) The overhanging EFL charge meaning the club could be relegated
9) The club's finances being called into question
10)  Games coming every other day due to Covid meaning no real coaching could take place
11) Westwood deciding he was 'injured' again and the replacement keepers being really weak
12) The EFL Hearing 
13) Fletcher and Fox clearing off - arguably our two strongest players


etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

etc

 

I  dont' know what you do for a living but..

1) It really cannot be managing people otherwise you'd understand the above points and it's impact on your ability to do your job properly
2) Whatever it is you do, if you were faced with all the above things hindering you there's no WAY you'd be able to perform

More excuses than errrr Garry Monk.

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I want to be positive about next season but I'm just too worried especially starting on -12.

 

The squad is poor and needs alot of improvements.

 

We need a huge turn around in form from the end of last season to get out of this mess we are in.

 

Reading were 4th bottom and had 8 points after 10 games last season so we need 20 from the first 10 games.

 

We need a good start or we could be adrift and in a very dire situation.

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6 hours ago, Yellowbelly said:

I think consolidate our position in the league this season, followed by a top half finish and potential promotion push in the following couple of seasons. Despite opinions to the contrary, Monk will need a couple more transfer windows to change the profile of the team and get the side he wants. 

Im 60 now , and I've got to be patient again ...another 3 seasons and a potential promotion push.....f.ook me rigid !

Just dawned on me, i was 40 the last time we were in the prem......sob  

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The coaching changes are the one big positive this pre season and let’s hope they can deliver some refreshing new ideas.

 

On a side-note, Flahavan is short for a GK.

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