gurujuan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: Where are you getting this from pal? According to WhoScored.com, Borner was dribbled past 0.6 times per game on average. That ranks him as 24th in the league for CB's as most dribbled past. Notable CB's that were dribbled past more per game include Aden Flint (0.7), Shaun Hutchinson (0.8) and Michael Hector (0.9). In fact, one of the least "dribbled past" players in the entire league at 0.2 on average per game is... Liam Palmer. Basically, not only do I disagree with your assessment that he was dribbled past more than nearly every single other CB in the league last season, but that stat alone does not indicate quality or lack thereof. Otherwise, Liam Palmer is a bit of a world-beater at this level... I think what we can take from that is, that Liam Palmer is a much better defender than some give him credit for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, torryowl said: Individuals dont matter it's how they play as team ...if monk sets them up right theres no reason they why they cant grind out the 62 points that's probably needed Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Definitely need another striker and a left back. Could do with a better keeper too. But there's time yet and if we get another 3 in i think we'll definitely have enough to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Or sold £40 million no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Unfortunately I still can't see past the managers ineptitude being more of a factor, regardless of players/staff. Edited August 27, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Nobody's burst MY bubble! I'm really really happy with the new signings Don't forget also we have a brand new coaching structure and a brand new assistant manager The new players look up for it and seem younger and I hope they have an infinite amount of positive mental energy Looking forward to next season AND.... We've not finished signing players yet! More to come! 2 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Plonk said: For balance we started last season with. westwood odebanjo Tom lees Borner palmer reach K Lee bannan hutch harris fletcher. won 31 at reading as it stands line up v cardiff dawson odebanjo dunkley borner palmer reach bannan luongo brown harris Rhodes stronger Or weaker? Looks about the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 43 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Good to see you're positive about the first year of monk's five year plan...that's what I like to see. Keep up the good work 5 year plan won't last 5 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I'm really really happy with the new signings Don't forget also we have a brand new coaching structure and a brand new assistant manager The new players look up for it and seem younger and I hope they have an infinite amount of positive mental energy Looking forward to next season AND.... We've not finished signing players yet! More to come! Actually they’re a year older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I think what we can take from that is, that Liam Palmer is a much better defender than some give him credit for If that is the case then my eyes dont work and the optician is a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, full fathom five said: 5 year plan won't last 5 months Should have been gone 5 months ago ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Dutch McLovin said: If that is the case then my eyes dont work and the optician is a liar. Get him to prescribe you a pair of those blue and white Inverdales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: Get him to prescribe you a pair of those blue and white Inverdales Is that what the Monkettes on here have pal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Is that what the Monkettes on here have pal ? Ha ha, yes there’s a few kicking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) I’m looking at the whole thing as a fresh start. Monk finally has his own backroom staff and has been allowed a few new signings and I think there will be more. I’m enjoying the videos the social media team are putting out, there definitely seems to be a feeling of togetherness and hopefully the team will bring this to the pitch. The signs were there after lockdown apart from sloppy mistakes/poor concentration and bad decisions/poor finishing in the final third which hopefully the new coaching team can help iron out. It is a division of very fine margins, keep it tight and take your chances and there is no reason we can’t do much better than some expect us to. Edited August 27, 2020 by sonofbert2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I think what we can take from that is, that Liam Palmer is a much better defender than some give him credit for A better player in general. One of our only international players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 We will do better than what alot of people think. Seige mentally, BE POSITIVE WAWAW UTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, beloved_aunt said: I know we’ve had a bit of pre season optimism, but bearing in mind we need top half form just to get fourth bottom, how many of our squad are actually good enough for that? I’ve categorised our squad under three headings: - Top half Champs player - Bottom half Champs player - League One player It makes grim reading. Without some serious additions out wide and up front I’d be worried about staying up, even without -12 GKs Wildsmith - Bottom half Dawson - Bottom half CBs Iorfa - Top half Dunkley - Bottom half (never played higher in his career) Borner - Bottom half (only 4 CBs dribbled past more in Champs last season) Lees - Bottom half Van Aken - League 1 Urogihde - League 1 RWBs Palmer - Top half as a defensive full back in a back 4, as a wing back bottom half Odubajo - League 1 LWBs Harris - Bottom half esp as a WB Penney - League 1 CMs Bannan - Top half Luongo - Top half Reach - Current form have to say bottom half unless he can have a dramatic uptake Brown - Potentially top half of stays fit Hunt/FDB/Shaw - League 1 for now STs Rhodes - League 1 Very negative assessment and completely misses how the championship works. In past seasons clubs have been relegated that if you did same analysis of their squad pre season you would rate 90% of their squad top half or premier League standard. Also clubs (such as utd and Huddersfield) been promoted when again pre season players would all have been seen as bottom half / league 1 standard. Edited August 27, 2020 by wellbeaten-the-owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I guess we all knew the state of affairs, the form table doesn’t lie. Our fate next season, was all about what Monk could do in this window. It was clear that we needed to add 5 or 6 players to the starting eleven, that were better than the options who struggled last year. If we do that, I think we’ll be OK Surely it's what the recruitment team (which takes input from a Monk) and ultimately the chairman can do in this window? I'm sure Monk will have made his preferences clear some time ago now, and then it's over to Chansiri to try to make the deals happen. Hopefully he'll be able to provide the coaching team with a few more of the necessary tools before the season starts, otherwise they're on a hiding to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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