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Can't be arsed reading about how the incompetent EFL are moving the goal posts. While parachute payments in place it's pointless. The ever increasing money in the premiership will mean increasing the size of parachute payments in time no doubt. It's like the financial crisis. Those at the top run away with everything trashing football crushing it in to a hugely expensive thing. How much did Messi cost 10 years ago.... Is he better and worth more now. No it's just rediculous how for the same product we all keep paying more and more and more. Agents are the key they drive it all. Meanwhile just as in the financial crisis the people lower down get crushed. If you try get round it because there is no legit way to get promoted you get done. If it was a ture fair system nobody would need to. Should be about football not money. It's only about money now. 

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2 hours ago, wilyfox said:

I don’t even wanna know what shíte they’ve come up with now.


stadium sales are now banned and it’s backdated 5 years with any team that’s done it to receive minus 12 points. 
 

any team from Yorkshire with a day of the week in their name to be docked 12 points

 

any team with two gold elephant statues to be docked 10 points

 

any team from Sheffield playing in blue and white stripes to be docked 12 points

 

any team re-signing pelupessy to deserve all they get

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2 hours ago, Manwë said:

Key words, right here:

 

"Clubs approve"

 

 

The 'Clubs Approve' only because the Premier League hold a gun to their heads on solidarity payments. 

 

From the EFL's own independent review this year;

 

'And in any event the Premier League has made solidarity payments conditional upon the EFL adopting and applying the Profit & Sustainability Rules for the Championship. Therefore in reality it is the Premier League that decides the Championship FFP rules. Therefore, a majority of the GWG does not recommend any change on this point.'

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1 hour ago, NorthernOwl said:

 

The rules are not there for 'fair play' purposes. They are there to stop clubs going bust. Hence the name change to profit and sustainability.

They are not there to stop clubs going bust. they are there to ensure that Premier League clubs can spend lots of money and not worry about the consequences of relegation on their business plans.

Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

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1 minute ago, Nero said:

The 'Clubs Approve' only because the Premier League hold a gun to their heads on solidarity payments. 

 

From the EFL's own independent review this year;

 

'And in any event the Premier League has made solidarity payments conditional upon the EFL adopting and applying the Profit & Sustainability Rules for the Championship. Therefore in reality it is the Premier League that decides the Championship FFP rules. Therefore, a majority of the GWG does not recommend any change on this point.'

So desperate for the crumbs EPL throw in solidarity payments, easily used to blackmail clubs into accepting unfair conditions. 

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25 minutes ago, Nero said:

The 'Clubs Approve' only because the Premier League hold a gun to their heads on solidarity payments. 

 

From the EFL's own independent review this year;

 

'And in any event the Premier League has made solidarity payments conditional upon the EFL adopting and applying the Profit & Sustainability Rules for the Championship. Therefore in reality it is the Premier League that decides the Championship FFP rules. Therefore, a majority of the GWG does not recommend any change on this point.'

 

You've answered the question yourself.

 

"Therefore, a majority of the GWG does not recommend any change on this point.'".

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Horse said:

It doesn't beggar belief though when the majority of EFL clubs will never be in a position to fight for promotion to the Premier League.

It's in their best interests to throttle the majority back to somewhere near their level.
Only way out is for Prem League 2.

"Clubs in the Championship last week approved proposals to amend Profitability and Sustainability regulations."

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Without seeing the details its hard to know how averaging the losses for 2019/20 and 2020/21 helps clubs.

Both are seasons where losses will likely be higher than usual due to reduced revenues.

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3 hours ago, bobness said:

There is certainly merit to the financial burden incurred by clubs who are on a Premier League operating budget while playing in the Championship. But for the system to work, there should be restrictions on what the extended allowance covers, so that it's only expenses carried over. 

Although nominally that would negate the potential for future purchases unless you had a sufficiently robust financial view within which any player purchase would fit. I.e. anticipation of player loss over the coming years balancing incoming eventually arriving at a sustainable budget.. if you get me. 

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2 hours ago, Nero said:

They are not there to stop clubs going bust. they are there to ensure that Premier League clubs can spend lots of money and not worry about the consequences of relegation on their business plans.

Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

 

And yet championship clubs keep voting for them. Clearly all the chairmen must be fools

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3 hours ago, NorthernOwl said:

 

And yet championship clubs keep voting for them. Clearly all the chairmen must be fools

Yep in a way. But they wouldn't get the solidarity payments if not. 

They have no choice

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5 hours ago, Nero said:

The 'Clubs Approve' only because the Premier League hold a gun to their heads on solidarity payments. 

 

From the EFL's own independent review this year;

 

'And in any event the Premier League has made solidarity payments conditional upon the EFL adopting and applying the Profit & Sustainability Rules for the Championship. Therefore in reality it is the Premier League that decides the Championship FFP rules. Therefore, a majority of the GWG does not recommend any change on this point.'

Case closed your honour. The Premier League have abolished relegation and promotion.

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