Guest Grandad Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If we put aside our form in the 2nd half of last season - and work on the assumption that with some more new additions, Monk working with his own staff, hopefully any bad apples now consigned to the wheelie bin and maybe even Westwood finally recovering from his injury ( ) - what do we think is our realistic aim for next season? Personally - I'd be splitting the season down into targetted sections. Out of the bottom 3 after 10 games. Out of the bottom half after 30 games. But how realistic is that? Based on last season - to be out of the bottom 3 after 10 games would require 18 points to be won. 18 points would be 5 wins, 3 draws and only 2 losses. I did say we would be putting last seasons form behind us - but even if we do - thats a very big ask. But not as big an ask as to be out of the bottom half after 30 games. To achieve that would rely on us winning 55 points - 43 plus the 12 catch up. Looking at last season - that would require automatic promotion form for the whole 30 games. With a new squad. Is that do-able? Maybe looking to achieve a top-half finish after the entire season would seem a more realistic target. But even that is asking for a gargantuan achievement from the squad. To achieve top half last season - with a -12 start - would require a 5th place in the play-offs run of form for 46 games. Whichever way you look at it - if we are being realistic - to finish 1 place above relegation we've got to be the 9th best team in the division next year based on last years points totals. (Or better than we've been in any season since Carlos got us up to 4th) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Monk is the man We have our own version of the Busby Babes being brought into the club It’s a new and exciting future 1 6 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Monk is the man We have our own version of the Busby Babes being brought into the club It’s a new and exciting future Just don't call em 'Monkys Babes' whatever you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Grandad said: Just don't call em 'Monkys Babes' whatever you do. Monk’s Men Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Automatic promotion. I’ll settle for 2nd though as were at a slight disadvantage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post S36 OWL Posted August 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2020 I will take forth bottom now. But that wil probably mean needing 65pts. Tall order, but not impossible. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I think we need to get off to a good start. Need minimum of 8 points from first 5 games. But overall aim is to stop up. Give us 50/50 chance of stopping up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I honestly think it’ll be a real achievement not to get relegated. And I'll settle for 4th bottom. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Whichever way you look at it - if we are being realistic - to finish 1 place above relegation we've got to be the 9th best team in the division next year based on last years points totals. (Or better than we've been in any season since Carlos got us up to 4th) I hope the rest of the thread is more optimistic than I... I read this and to be honest my heart just sinks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, StudentOwl said: I hope the rest of the thread is more optimistic than I... I read this and to be honest my heart just sinks I'll be honest - when I started looking at the tables and the points - I started to wish I'd not done the work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 We need a kind fixture list for the first 5 games. Not holding my breath, and I’m sure someone will say there’s no easy games in the championship. But if we have Norwich, Watford, Bournemouth, Brentford and Cardiff to start then it would be tough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Realistic aim is 4th bottom this is a massive success and with our squad even with new additions this is a big ask. You say discard the end to last season but it cant be forever, imagine if we lose our first 3 games any newly found positive feeling will be gone. Granted if we win them it will be the other way. Im not going to get into the Monk debate again my feelings are clear on him, but even if we had a good manager in place to stay up this season will be a monumental task. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If we finish in the top half ,Not a fan of Monks but the signs are good with the age of players ,This Izzy Brown 23 last year of contract .Realistic aims to sneak into play offs we will need around 84 points -12 ,72 that is a big ask .Mid table this season ,Would be good for me ,But i want more . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Grandad said: I'll be honest - when I started looking at the tables and the points - I started to wish I'd not done the work Didn't DJM work out that a twelve point penalty would have seen us relegated in 11 out of the last 20 seasons? Based on that and our form at the back end of last season you have to say avoiding relegation would be a triumph. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If we start on minus 12, I will take finishing 21st all day long. And hope the next set of accounts don't see us in the same boat or worse for the season after. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdmfournil Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 It might turn out a lot easier than we think. Derby will get some sort of points deduction and I would say its a fair bet that at least two or three other clubs will possibly enter administration over the course of the season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 21st and I’ll be over the effin moon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Didn't DJM work out that a twelve point penalty would have seen us relegated in 11 out of the last 20 seasons? Based on that and our form at the back end of last season you have to say avoiding relegation would be a triumph. So it's 50/50 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: 21st and I’ll be over the effin moon!! why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstone Owl Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 To be playing championship football in 2021/22 and to avoid spending much money (so more is available for our promotion push ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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