Mid Wicket Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, robowl4life said: Windass was ok tbf. Da Cruz is raw, with correct coaching and experience who knows... yeah it’s a gamble but a cheap one at that. I think he needed to adapt to the championship tbf. Renember Grant Holt? He was one of the worst footballers I’ve seen at S6... didn’t do bad in his career in the end. Remember Grant Holt? I remember Brian Marwood, people stood around me on kop said he was worst signing they had seen his first few games, he ended being a bargain. Trouble is if new signings don't score a few in their first games they get called crap. With Da Cruz its a big step up and a new country so he needs time to settle, I agree, its a gamble but a cheap one. Windass was OK I would have him back as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 19 goals in 116 appearances and several loan moved with no one taking him permanently says he isn’t going to develop into what we need. Didn’t impress last season. We can do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tight Arse Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Good, hope this comes off.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jakes Grandad said: Remember Grant Holt? I remember Brian Marwood, people stood around me on kop said he was worst signing they had seen his first few games, he ended being a bargain. Trouble is if new signings don't score a few in their first games they get called crap. With Da Cruz its a big step up and a new country so he needs time to settle, I agree, its a gamble but a cheap one. Windass was OK I would have him back as well. a cheap one? The fee reported earlier in the year was 2 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 James Beattie isn’t a miracle worker! If he does come back then I hope he’s not classed as an out and out striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, WalthamOwl said: a cheap one? The fee reported earlier in the year was 2 million. If he is coming back there isn't a cat in hells chance we will be paying 2m, itll be a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: a cheap one? The fee reported earlier in the year was 2 million. £2m is the new £350k. It’s not that much in today’s mad football world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocklington owl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 He’s horrendous and we all can see it ‘monk out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, robowl4life said: £2m is the new £350k. It’s not that much in today’s mad football world. It is for a player like Da Cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Think this is another loan deal. What’s to lose. The guy is strong, brave and quick. Fits many of the criteria we lack. Let Beattie work on him. He’s turned players like this into 20 goal a season strikers before. Nothing lost if it doesn’t work out. still need to recruit two more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: 19 goals in 116 appearances and several loan moved with no one taking him permanently says he isn’t going to develop into what we need. Didn’t impress last season. We can do better Can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc_Degryse Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blatter said: What’s to lose. The guy is strong, brave and quick. Fits many of the criteria we lack. Let Beattie work on him. He’s turned players like this into 20 goal a season strikers before. Nothing lost if it doesn’t work out. still need to recruit two more though. The cost of his wages. any loan fee and the valuable time of our coaching team? Would rather Beattie and co spent their time coaching players we own than trying to improve those of other clubs who's already failed to perform for us last season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Definite no from me. League one player at best. They should pay us a fee to take him back, never mind us paying them. Edited August 17, 2020 by marconi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, marconi said: Definite no from me. League one player at best. They should pay us a fee to take home back, never mind us paying them. Can't believe people would turn nose up at prospect of Kachunga on a free but want da Cruz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Can we? i think so. I’m in the “hungry young guns without baggage” camp Leeds got Nketiah last season. Swansea got Brewster. The young players are out there not getting game time as the big guns continue to spend tens of millions on the finished article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, N0rtherner said: Three pages and still no answers to who is B? He is between A and C, I believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: i think so. I’m in the “hungry young guns without baggage” camp Leeds got Nketiah last season. Swansea got Brewster. The young players are out there not getting game time as the big guns continue to spend tens of millions on the finished article. Those players come with a big loan fee. Derby paid 2 million for the services of Harry Wilson a couple of years ago. Plus are they going to join a club on -12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, cowl said: The post-lockdown Da Cruz looked a lot better than the pre-lockdown one. Especially good against QPR. I'd be okay about him coming back. I think that QPR game against one of the most disinterested teams I have seen in a long time, it has done Da Cruz and Windass a lot of favours. If you look at their contribution overall it was very limited. Both have something about them but difficult to pin the to a role or position in which they might be more consistently effective in our team. We were rubbish last season yet with 12/13 players still remaining and some advocating the return of these players under the same manager, I can't see how we should expect any significant improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 For the U23s he could be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Please no. His goal scoring record not just for us is shocking. A Monk favourite so obviously no good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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