Jonestown83 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm 100% supportive around all race issues This isn't one though This is just someone being accused of being dishonest and pulling tricks an accusation based purely on where he’s from Your not from round here you must be sneaky with 0 evidence to support this otherwise there’re be no need to mention the country of his birth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, royalowlisback said: Do you mean their? Know, I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Totally agree mate. It's not racist what so ever. I wish some people would put the race card away and stop with the faux outrage. The EFL are claiming Chansiri was trying it on by claiming his English isn't as good as we all know it is. The problem with this sort of thing, where people jump on their soap box screaming racism where none exists, is it harms the genuine cases if racism. You can't categorically state it's not racist. Racism is a subjective and comparative issue. It's not racist to not hire a person of colour, but if you only ever hire white people, it's probably racism. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, hirstysfags said: Their. Capital not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 We can debate if some people believe its racist or not they charged FF with less evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Whilst it’s not attacking him on racial grounds it’s a shocking slur to assume someone is misleading you due to a lower level of English. It’s discrimination 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Totally agree mate. It's not racist what so ever. I wish some people would put the race card away and stop with the faux outrage. The EFL are claiming Chansiri was trying it on by claiming his English isn't as good as we all know it is. The problem with this sort of thing, where people jump on their soap box screaming racism where none exists, is it harms the genuine cases if racism. Good enough to hold a conversation about complex legal matters? When I've heard him talk English, its certainly not to that level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Whilst it’s not attacking him on racial grounds it’s a shocking slur to assume someone is misleading you due to a lower level of English. It’s discrimination It's not discrimination at all It's simply accusing him of acting dishonestly and pulling tricks 2 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycraign10others Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Whilst it’s not attacking him on racial grounds it’s a shocking slur to assume someone is misleading you due to a lower level of English. It’s discrimination Sorry to labour the point but if it’s discrimination you would have to say on what grounds. I suspect there are a few commenting that it is discriminatory on the grounds of his race. Therefore it would be racial discrimination. Personally I don’t believe it to be discriminatory but terribly bad manners and unprofessional and something for which he should receive a public apology 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's not discrimination at all It's simply accusing him of acting dishonestly and pulling tricks In a way that only a non native speaker can... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tommycraign10others said: Sorry to labour the point but if it’s discrimination you would have to say on what grounds. I suspect there are a few commenting that it is discriminatory on the grounds of his race. Therefore it would be racial discrimination. Personally I don’t believe it to be discriminatory but terribly bad manners and unprofessional and something for which he should receive a public apology THIS What's happened isn't racist or discriminatory at all It's simply accusing someone of pulling a dishonest stunt It's just clumsy, silly, and should never have happened but throwing words around like racist and discrimination is just daft There's more than enough to criticise the EFL for without ever having to resort to those desperate tactics 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 We are a shambles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I don't often stick up for DC but his ability to speak English is perfectly fine. It's just the nonsense he comes out with that's the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's not discrimination at all It's simply accusing him of acting dishonestly and pulling tricks The ip said he wasn"t..and clearly wasn't.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Is anyone wondering about the whole Fessi situation giving him the 6 match ban even though in court they didn't have the evidence to charge him and cleared him. Yet the EFL still punished us? All seems to be adding up now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, MrTacoSWFC said: Is anyone wondering about the whole Fessi situation giving him the 6 match ban even though in court they didn't have the evidence to charge him and cleared him. Yet the EFL still punished us? All seems to be adding up now. Wasn't that the FA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S25OWL Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Why are we automatically assuming Chansiri wasn't lying about his lack of proficiency to speak English? Something you cant prove or disprove. Believe me for 4 years I have tried to have conversations with him when stood having a fag with Alastair from the ticket office ... now believe me Alistair has had to help out - so I am pretty convinced he isn't good at english (or maybe not worked out broad yorkshire just yet) !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, CrosbyKitchens said: Wasn't that the FA? Yeah... my bad haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderly Owl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, steelerian said: Google is your friend. But hey, Im feeling generous so I'll help you out. rac·ist /ˈrāsəst/ noun a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. However, unless I am misunderstanding it, they are not discriminating against DC for his race or any other reason. They are just saying he is misleading them on his understanding of the langauge. So its not racist - he is not being racially discriminated against - its just a simple accusation of lying to them. Actually Steeler.....I have considered your well researched and equally perceptive opinion and I find that I agree with you! So it’s me and you then! I’m going for the EFL accusing DC of lying but more importantly their allegation is disrespectful and (We hope) fundamentally flawed. it’s about time people woke down! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: THIS What's happened isn't racist or discriminatory at all It's simply accusing someone of pulling a dishonest stunt It's just clumsy, silly, and should never have happened but throwing words around like racist and discrimination is just daft There's more than enough to criticise the EFL for without ever having to resort to those desperate tactics We all have different standards, definitions on matters of morals. Just because they meet your standards doesn't necessarily mean they meet the standards of others. You put the argument for your standard and allow others to put forward their standard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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