Dick_Turpin Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, CalmJimmers said: If you can't prove or disprove it, why have the EFL, a professional organisation, brought it up? If true, they've effectively accused him of being sly and dishonest. It's so bizarre - one for the lawyers I guess and maybe a seam that they can pick away at to get the whole thing thrown out on appeal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Royal_D said: Absolutely disgusting really from the EFL To get away with unfounded claims of aggravated misconduct, and a more or less racist accusation is beyond belief really Still, people will defend them against DC This element of the report is shameful and appalling. But that should not detract from what the reports seems to be making clear - that both parties have demonstrated ample incompetence and lack of foresight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, steelerian said: Absolutely none of it. It's just that, very like 99% of people with opinions today, they have no idea what the word racist actually means, but just shout it at the top of their voices whenever dealing with foreigners becomes a bit dicey. Go on then ... enlighten us all , what does it mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, DJMortimer said: This element of the report is shameful and appalling. But that should not detract from what the reports seems to be making clear - that both parties have demonstrated ample incompetence and lack of foresight. The clubs done wrong and been punished The facts are the EFL wanted that punishment to go over and above, made outrageous accusations and take no accountability whatsoever for there 100% failure to deal with the whole matter within a reasonable time frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, Royal_D said: Go on then ... enlighten us all , what does it mean Google is your friend. But hey, Im feeling generous so I'll help you out. rac·ist /ˈrāsəst/ noun a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. However, unless I am misunderstanding it, they are not discriminating against DC for his race or any other reason. They are just saying he is misleading them on his understanding of the langauge. So its not racist - he is not being racially discriminated against - its just a simple accusation of lying to them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 If (as most of us presume) DC went after Mike Ashley, I’d say that the EFL need to send us Jacob Murphy in time for next season or they’ll get a good telling off ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, steelerian said: Google is your friend. But hey, Im feeling generous so I'll help you out. rac·ist /ˈrāsəst/ noun a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. However, unless I am misunderstanding it, they are not discriminating against DC for his race or any other reason. They are just saying he is misleading them on his understanding of the langauge. So its not racist - he is not being racially discriminated against - its just a simple accusation of lying to them. Whilst I agree that I'm unsure if it is racist, 'simply' lying is not an accusation you simply splash around, especially when regarding somebody in business. Business is based a lot on trust, and uncertainty over the trustworthiness of somebody in business can seriously effect relationships and agreements in the future. If true what has been reported, the EFL seem to be accusing DC of effectively lying, and not only that, being sly and sneaky about it, which was thrown out straight away. If it's true I genuinely cannot believe they have tried to bring something along those lines up to punish DC and the club. It's absolutely embarrassing and outrageous if I'm understanding it right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said: Why are we automatically assuming Chansiri wasn't lying about his lack of proficiency to speak English? Something you cant prove or disprove. When you try to be *controversial* and make yourself look like a proper doughnut in the process. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, steelerian said: Google is your friend. But hey, Im feeling generous so I'll help you out. rac·ist /ˈrāsəst/ noun a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. However, unless I am misunderstanding it, they are not discriminating against DC for his race or any other reason. They are just saying he is misleading them on his understanding of the langauge. So its not racist - he is not being racially discriminated against - its just a simple accusation of lying to them. What's he like eh? Just talk in English, bloody foreigners. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Seriously, what an accusation to level at someone. Lazy, racist, xenophobic claptrap. This is the governing body of 72 football league sides. Unbelievable. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 This is like the police arresting some forgiven national who speaks broken english, interviewing him without offering an interpreter, then trying to bag him up for murder. (yes extreme example). If this happened the guys lawyers would have a field day. Now spin this around and apply this to a supposed highish profile business man who relies on his reputation as an honest, respectable guy in order to do deals. The EFL should be bending over a table hoping people go easy and don't bring out the 10inch sex toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, SiJ said: Seriously, what an accusation to level at someone. Lazy, racist, xenophobic claptrap. This is the governing body of 72 football league sides. Unbelievable. Indeed. It does sound like they have it in for him/us though hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, helmut_rooster said: Bet his English is better than thier Thai BoOm... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Bet his english is better than thier thai Do you mean their? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 ''You sir! Speak proper English to me man.....My attractive manner is unimpressed by your deliberate and exaggerated attempts to appear to be a foreigner.'' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Bet his english is better than thier thai Their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Think it was extremely misjudged for the EFL to even include this accusation in their proceedings It's backfired on them BIG time (it's not racist though - it's nothing to do with actual racism whatsoever - it's just (inaccurately and wrongly) suggesting a crazy amount of dishonesty from our chairman) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Think it was extremely misjudged for the EFL to even include this accusation in their proceedings It's backfired on them BIG time (it's not racist though - it's nothing to do with actual racism whatsoever - it's just (inaccurately and wrongly) suggesting a crazy amount of dishonesty from our chairman) That's the part I'm most shocked about - certainly moreso than the accusation itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Blatant racism. Get Big Ron on the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmciverslovechild Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I don't have any professional experience of dealing with people from Thailand but I have from a number of other countries in the Far East; in particular China, Japan and Singapore. I think without exception those people have always placed their personal and professional integrity above anything. So I can only imagine Chansiri's reaction on effectively being called a liar. He would treat this as an absolute slur on his character. I doubt very much he'll let this pass. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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