Rogers Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 15 hours ago, HarryPlopper said: I often wonder if he stifles other players creative instincts to be honest. Wait until Pelupessy is our main creative force, then you'll know about stifling play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Clubs will have watched him but decided he is not what they need in a midfielder, hence no offers. If anyone comes up with over £500k we should snap their hands off. We have a virtual clone in the u23's in Alex Hunt, he is confident and tidy with the ball but has the same traits as BB. He doesn't win many headers, does not win many tackles and rarely intercepts. He is also guilty of not concentrating on tracking back or staying with his man but he can ping the ball about. In short he is only useful once we have the ball, top midfielders need more. I like Hunt at this age but it is obvious to push on he needs to make up for his size in other ways, on the other hand BB is currently the most overrated player I've seen at Hillsborough for a long while and likely on a downward curve. I like the optimism of replacing Bannan with Hourihane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I post about about cska moscow every day , doesn’t mean i want them to sign me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, should know better said: Clubs will have watched him but decided he is not what they need in a midfielder, hence no offers. If anyone comes up with over £500k we should snap their hands off. We have a virtual clone in the u23's in Alex Hunt, he is confident and tidy with the ball but has the same traits as BB. He doesn't win many headers, does not win many tackles and rarely intercepts. He is also guilty of not concentrating on tracking back or staying with his man but he can ping the ball about. In short he is only useful once we have the ball, top midfielders need more. I like Hunt at this age but it is obvious to push on he needs to make up for his size in other ways, on the other hand BB is currently the most overrated player I've seen at Hillsborough for a long while and likely on a downward curve. I like the optimism of replacing Bannan with Hourihane. Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 58 minutes ago, should know better said: Clubs will have watched him but decided he is not what they need in a midfielder, hence no offers. If anyone comes up with over £500k we should snap their hands off. We have a virtual clone in the u23's in Alex Hunt, he is confident and tidy with the ball but has the same traits as BB. He doesn't win many headers, does not win many tackles and rarely intercepts. He is also guilty of not concentrating on tracking back or staying with his man but he can ping the ball about. In short he is only useful once we have the ball, top midfielders need more. I like Hunt at this age but it is obvious to push on he needs to make up for his size in other ways, on the other hand BB is currently the most overrated player I've seen at Hillsborough for a long while and likely on a downward curve. I like the optimism of replacing Bannan with Hourihane. Okay so basically you personally don't like Barry Bannan for some reason But explain me this... Pretty much every single game (not just every now and again - ever single game) Barry Bannan's stats (you know... FACTS) show that he's by far the best player on the pitch By absolute miles The number of interceptions he makes Completed Passes Key Passes Crosses etc etc etc Every single game Can you explain to us how Barry Bannan is 'the most overrated player you've seen at Hillsborough for a long while' gets better stats than any other player on the pitch pretty much every single game? How come? Why is that? How do you explain it? 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedmilkman Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 West brom were interested last season but at the time they didnt have a manager and we had bruce, and there was a real feeling in the squad good things were going to happen (cheers steve!) To say hes overrated is talksport level sensationalism, although it worked as I nibbled I suppose....any criticism of bannan is more a damning indictment of our recruitment, because instead of securing a top ball winner to play next to him, we instead bombed off Hutchinson and got in Pelupessy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Stats? where are they for allowing your opposition to simply run past you, where are they for stood on the periphery when the opposition are attacking and then coming back to take over if we win the ball back. Do you have his stats for corner taking, is he as good as Darren Potter. Maybe the stats will show that we lose many more games without him. Perhaps the stats show that Reach is the best free kick taker in the league after all he took one and scored. From memory I don't think his scoring stats are very good at all. Therefore we have someone who is fed the ball to punt many more times than other teams with a more effective style, therefore the law of averages should favour him. He is poor at shooting, tackling, heading, dribbling and defending but still a top six midfielder! We now have to believe it is Hutchinsons fault that he is not as effective cos the replacements are not that good, maybe if we had bought Hourihane to play with Hutchinson we would have been more successful. Still look forward to hearing the mega bids for him from other teams particularly in view of our current situation. I realise there are some who said he was better than Cairney, Moy and Shelvey and that none of SUFC's midfielders could get into our midfield but time appears to contradict those thoughts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Might have a slight apology to make to BB fans, I bit at the stats and took a third party view on championship midfielders https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerte/wettbewerb/GB2/plus//galerie/0?pos=Mittelfeld&detailpos=7&altersklasse=alle the link shows BB as 25th best in championship (much higher than I thought) and worth £2.16m so I hope we can get around that figure as we need to get rid of the big earners whilst they have a resale value. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, should know better said: Clubs will have watched him but decided he is not what they need in a midfielder, hence no offers. If anyone comes up with over £500k we should snap their hands off. We have a virtual clone in the u23's in Alex Hunt, he is confident and tidy with the ball but has the same traits as BB. He doesn't win many headers, does not win many tackles and rarely intercepts. He is also guilty of not concentrating on tracking back or staying with his man but he can ping the ball about. In short he is only useful once we have the ball, top midfielders need more. I like Hunt at this age but it is obvious to push on he needs to make up for his size in other ways, on the other hand BB is currently the most overrated player I've seen at Hillsborough for a long while and likely on a downward curve. I like the optimism of replacing Bannan with Hourihane. Idiot alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Idiot alert! you don’t have to announce that every time you arrive! In all seriousness though, post not poster!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Philb125 said: you don’t have to announce that every time you arrive! In all seriousness though, post not poster!! ******** off mate! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 11 hours ago, should know better said: Might have a slight apology to make to BB fans, I bit at the stats and took a third party view on championship midfielders https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerte/wettbewerb/GB2/plus//galerie/0?pos=Mittelfeld&detailpos=7&altersklasse=alle the link shows BB as 25th best in championship (much higher than I thought) and worth £2.16m so I hope we can get around that figure as we need to get rid of the big earners whilst they have a resale value. No stick to your original thought in that he is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I think Bannan deserves credit. He obviously enjoyed playing under Carlos with a lot of good players and we played some good passing football. Good bond in that squad. The others fell by the wayside, injured, old or simply preferred just to take the money and do nowt but Bannan has kept turning in decent performances week after week while the quality around him has drastically reduced. 100% commitment. He gets frustrated, which leads to petulance, and while not condoning it , I can understand it. He has been key to the team over the last few years, probably too key, but that’s not his fault. Can’t see him leaving, and will be interesting to see the role we ask him to do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 16/08/2020 at 22:44, S36 OWL said: We need to start selling players when while they have some value. This is where we have messed up for years. If a good offer comes in for him, sell and reinvest in younger players with their careers in front of them. For too long now we have let players run down their contracts and leave for nowt. Its time to start being more savvy. Absolutely. I think if we can move him on this summer for a decent fee it is definitely worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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