marshy Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, REDAs_biG_piECE said: Gary Hooper Nando Fletcher Bonne.... FFS Like going from Ferrari’s to Ford Fiestas Having seen a fat lad from Sheffield play in the premiership, anything is possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I did notice he was available and that others were interested. Can’t see our friends Charlton being open to discussing anything with us to be honest though, unless it’s via lawyers so I suspect he won’t be coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Blue Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) Apparently he's another hungry young player. I was at a restaurant and I overheard a French bloke compliment him on exactly that. His words were "Bonne appetit". Edited August 15, 2020 by Samurai Blue 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexpistol Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, parajack said: EH?.....Ferrari's? when? how far back are you going?.....Dont need high performance Strikers to score goals....Just hard working grafters like Lee Chapman, & a systym that produces enough goal scoring Opportunity's..... Lee Chapman is probably our best goals scorer per game in recent memory. All at the top level as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tight Arse Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Tommo_ said: Take a day off from being a tryhard comedian and try having constructive input into a thread for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Lee A said: Come on lads, if you're a striker you should be queuing up to come here. Okay you'll get no service, score no goals and have the ball smashed at your head by Tom Lees all afternoon. But you're guaranteed to play every week. It'll be fun, honest. Will he be playing for the reserves? That's the only way he'll get on the same pitch as Lees next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Philb125 said: Some may argue better to have a fiesta on the road than three Ferrari’s constantly at the mechanics garage. Possibly, Bonne's number of games in the past 4 years aren't too different to the amount of games the 'constantly injured' Fletcher played for us though...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 hours ago, sexpistol said: Lee Chapman is probably our best goals scorer per game in recent memory. All at the top level as well. True but Chapman had already proved himself as a goalscorer in the top two divisions when he joined us. His style might not have been the most easy on the eye but he was effective at the top level, no comparison to someone like Bonne in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyowl61 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Philb125 said: Some may argue better to have a fiesta on the road than three Ferrari’s constantly at the mechanics garage. Absolutely spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 5 hours ago, REDAs_biG_piECE said: Gary Hooper Nando Fletcher Bonne.... FFS Like going from Ferrari’s to Ford Fiestas Ferrari’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 5 hours ago, parajack said: EH?.....Ferrari's? when? how far back are you going?.....Dont need high performance Strikers to score goals....Just hard working grafters like Lee Chapman, & a systym that produces enough goal scoring Opportunity's..... If Blades can get a McGoldrick playing like he is then any player has a chance if they’re wiling to graft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OrlandoUnTrustful Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 We should be all over this. He’s in the right age bracket and is available for a reasonable price. Also scoring 11 goals in a dire team in the championship shows he’s got something about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Steven Fletcher 2016/17: 40 appearances 2017/18: 19 appearances 2018/19: 40 appearances 2019/20: 27 appearances Total: 126 Macauley Bonne: 2016/17: 33 appearances 2017/18: 44 appearances 2018/19: 46 appearances 2019/20: 33 appearances Total: 156 That's 24% more games on average in a season he's played. Furthermore, the only season out of the last four that Fletcher has played more than Bonne was 2016/17... a season where Bonne turned 21. Hardly an age where you're necessarily going to be playing every game. Also a season where he was on loan to two different clubs (due to being 21 and unable to break into the Colchester first team) and was an unused sub for 20 of Colchester's games... ie, he was match fit and just didn't play because again... a 21 year old substitute. Basically, I think it's really disingenuous to imply that their appearance record is in any way comparable. The only season that looks poor for appearance records for Bonne (when accounting for age) is the last one of only 33 appearances... and he was still an unused sub for 13 games. Available for all 46 league games of last season. Compared to Fletcher's 31... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 11 goals for 500k is a bargain. But presumably he would end up staying down south if the chance arose. Tyler Walker on the other hand has tended to remain around this neck of the woods so we might have an advantage there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 6 hours ago, REDAs_biG_piECE said: Gary Hooper Nando Fletcher Bonne.... FFS Like going from Ferrari’s to Ford Fiestas More like Flintstones cars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, TodwickOwl said: If Blades can get a McGoldrick playing like he is then any player has a chance if they’re wiling to graft A mcGoldrick who hardly ever scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 6 hours ago, parajack said: EH?.....Ferrari's? when? how far back are you going?.....Dont need high performance Strikers to score goals....Just hard working grafters like Lee Chapman, & a systym that produces enough goal scoring Opportunity's..... Exactly On paper a forward line of Hooper, Forestieri, Fletcher and Rhodes sounded a lot better than Sharp, Mcgoldrick, Leon Clarke and Madine a couple of years back and look how that ended up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, StudentOwl said: Steven Fletcher 2016/17: 40 appearances 2017/18: 19 appearances 2018/19: 40 appearances 2019/20: 27 appearances Total: 126 Macauley Bonne: 2016/17: 33 appearances 2017/18: 44 appearances 2018/19: 46 appearances 2019/20: 33 appearances Total: 156 That's 24% more games on average in a season he's played. Furthermore, the only season out of the last four that Fletcher has played more than Bonne was 2016/17... a season where Bonne turned 21. Hardly an age where you're necessarily going to be playing every game. Also a season where he was on loan to two different clubs (due to being 21 and unable to break into the Colchester first team) and was an unused sub for 20 of Colchester's games... ie, he was match fit and just didn't play because again... a 21 year old substitute. Basically, I think it's really disingenuous to imply that their appearance record is in any way comparable. The only season that looks poor for appearance records for Bonne (when accounting for age) is the last one of only 33 appearances... and he was still an unused sub for 13 games. Available for all 46 league games of last season. Compared to Fletcher's 31... Not disingenuous at all, Bonne was playing lower league football and at the age of 22-24 should be playing regularly at that level. Fletcher at the wrong side of 30 is likely to play less games and at Championship level with greater competition is likely to get rotated more as well. I never said he wouldn't be a good option, just making the point that some were comparing Ferrari's to Fiesta's and saying they would rather have Fiesta's if they are far more road worthy. I don't think an extra 7 games a season when taking the above factors into consideration points towards this being all that significant in this case. Certainly not that big of a difference considering Fletcher is referred to as being injured a lot. Then factor in that Fletcher played for us and for whatever reason, all of our strikers seem to suffer more injury absences than they did at previous clubs. It may be a cynical/pessimistic viewpoint it wouldn't surprise me if the same was to happen to whoever we sign up front - we are cursed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otley Owl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 7 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Was excellent for me on FM19 when I managed Orient Sign him up Without wanting to derail the thread, I can't let stuff like this go. I wont sleep. Why would you manage Leyton Orient on football manager? I'm really hoping you're attached to the club in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Irrespective of the level of football comparing Bonne to Fletcher isn’t right anyway. Two different types of forward. Fletcher and Lyle Taylor are a better comparison whereas you’d compare Bonne to a Winnall or Windass. The benefit of taking a gamble on a more physical player is that they can at least influence a game if they aren’t scoring whereas someone different needs to be scoring regularly to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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