31Dec1966 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Some right sour grapes in this thread. Fletcher is a superb striker and was our best player last season. No one can doubt his commitment to the cause. He was one of the most popular figures in the dressing room and behind the scenes. He did have persistent injury problems and that is the major flaw with him. But for me he gave everything for the cause. Anyone who doesn't understand why he didn't play a part in the last few games is naive in my opinion. He needed to stay fit to sign for a new club, no point getting injured and then his career at this level would probably be over. Selfish? Maybe, but you have to make these decisions for your career. Afterall, we clearly weren't going to re-sign him. If that rubs people up the wrong way then they have to consider if they would do the same because I sure would. Overall though, it was the right time for him to leave. We need ro restructure the squad and wages. Good luck to him in the future. No sour grapes from me, and, I don't think from many others either. I don't think his goals record would entitle him to "superb striker" nomination. You can't blame low paid working people for being a bit miffed can you. For me, he's been poor value for money over the four years, as have many others. That's not sour grapes, it's my honest opinion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 The disgraced Steven Fletcher. Hope he enjoys the Coates coinage flooding his bank account whilst he spends 2 more years playing Fortnite on the treatment table. Mugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Was underwhelmed when he came - was annoyed that his wages unsettled FF - was irritated by his injury record and was frustrsted by his finishing (His miss against Cardiff was as much a turning point as the 2-4 Derby day) However I did like his attitude on the pitch despite the fact that wherever he was fouled he instinctively held his head - presumably to check he hadn’t lost any more hair. Good luck Steven - you weren’t bought for a relegation scrap but your goals this year kept us up. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, 31Dec1966 said: No sour grapes from me, and, I don't think from many others either. I don't think his goals record would entitle him to "superb striker" nomination. You can't blame low paid working people for being a bit miffed can you. For me, he's been poor value for money over the four years, as have many others. That's not sour grapes, it's my honest opinion. I suppose I meant in terms of his contribution when on the pitch. A very skilful and selfless player that contributes a lot in terms of build up play and never gives defenders an easy ride. In fact he's horrible to play against. When you compare him to upfront sloggers in the Championship he is a much more skilful player than most realise. There's no coincidence he played most of his career at the top level and even on loan to Marseille. In terms of value for money and injury problems I agree it hasn't been ideal. Unfortunately we had that with most of our expensive players. Something we seemed to be cursed by under Carlos. We do need a different approach personally so it isn't a disaster for me that he's left but I do think that to replace him with a better centre forward with our budget and current appeal we will have to unearth a gem or be lucky for someone to hit the form of their career. I do think people have forgotten or overlooked a lot of the contribution he made last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, mcmigo said: The disgraced Steven Fletcher. Hope he enjoys the Coates coinage flooding his bank account whilst he spends 2 more years playing Fortnite on the treatment table. Mugs. I reckon he did the right thing. Frustrating for us and sad to see but I don't blame him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, mcmigo said: The disgraced Steven Fletcher. Hope he enjoys the Coates coinage flooding his bank account whilst he spends 2 more years playing Fortnite on the treatment table. Mugs. And anybody daft enough to bet with BET365 are funding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Some right sour grapes in this thread. Pretty standard when a player chooses to leave a club, especially if he's reasonably good. Sometimes it's a bit like the reaction you expect when a teenage girl gets dumped. But for some of these trembling bottom lips, he'd probably have walked the 'Player of the Year' award. Injuries are clearly an issue with him, but he averaged 34 appearances per season in his 4 years here, so hardly in the Almen Abdi category for absenteeism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, 31Dec1966 said: No sour grapes from me, and, I don't think from many others either. I don't think his goals record would entitle him to "superb striker" nomination. You can't blame low paid working people for being a bit miffed can you. For me, he's been poor value for money over the four years, as have many others. That's not sour grapes, it's my honest opinion. Don't think he has been poor value. I was sceptical when he signed and it was a lot of money but when you consider there was no transfer fee his value for money is far better than some of our other signings. Yes I would have liked him to play more but some of his injuries occurred because he was willing to put his body on the line and at times Jos decided he couldn't play more than a couple of times a month whereas since then he played more regularly until his unfortunate injury in January. He offers more than goals so anyone looking plainly at those stats is doing him a disservice. He was pivotal in us finishing 4th and his goal had us on the verge of another play-off final, had he not been subbed we might have made it and he certainly wouldn't have shirked taking a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Good luck to him. He was very well paid at S6 and when the club asked for his help by staying an extra month he said nope, I am off to count my money.. Like Fox, and FF there won’t a warm welcome for him at Hillsbrough.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, outlaw pete said: Good luck to him. He was very well paid at S6 and when the club asked for his help by staying an extra month he said nope, I am off to count my money.. Like Fox, and FF there won’t a warm welcome for him at Hillsbrough.. He wasn't offered a new deal and clearly didn't want to get injured playing games. Unfortunately players don't bleed blue and white they are employee's and he was definitely looking out for himself. Again, its annoying when you realise they aren't robots that will give every fibre for the club but an expectation of reality has to come into play. It was a huge shame but given the situation a lot of players did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Some right sour grapes in this thread. Fletcher is a superb striker and was our best player last season. No one can doubt his commitment to the cause. He was one of the most popular figures in the dressing room and behind the scenes. He did have persistent injury problems and that is the major flaw with him. But for me he gave everything for the cause. Anyone who doesn't understand why he didn't play a part in the last few games is naive in my opinion. He needed to stay fit to sign for a new club, no point getting injured and then his career at this level would probably be over. Selfish? Maybe, but you have to make these decisions for your career. Afterall, we clearly weren't going to re-sign him. If that rubs people up the wrong way then they have to consider if they would do the same because I sure would. Overall though, it was the right time for him to leave. We need ro restructure the squad and wages. Good luck to him in the future. Superb? That pushing it. Decent Championship level striker with average goal scoring record. Fletcher has got a very good agent. For his ability he’s had a very good career, financially. The way he left was disgraceful. 4 years on very big money and couldn’t give us a few weeks more. I’ll give Nuhui the respect he deserves but if anyone does that standing ovation ballacks for ex players thing with Fletcher I’ll happily kick them in the bottom for 20 minutes. Players like Fletcher get you in the mess we are in. Mercenaries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Every player is a mercenary, it's a job. You need to realize this and stop treating any ex player like a ex girlfriend.who'd found a new boyfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, royalowlisback said: They are also pondering a move for Derek Dooley. Show some respect for the man's family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Grez Bez said: Every player is a mercenary, it's a job. You need to realize this and stop treating any ex player like a ex girlfriend.who'd found a new boyfriend. Not quite. These are very strange circumstances. Quite a few others players understood that. You need to realise that footballers are not superstars that you fawn down to, in your full kit aged 47 and SWFC car sticker. If they behave like waankers, treat them like waankers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, vulva said: Not quite. These are very strange circumstances. Quite a few others players understood that. You need to realise that footballers are not superstars that you fawn down to, in your full kit aged 47 and SWFC car sticker. If they behave like waankers, treat them like waankers. Made me chuckle. To be fair it comes down to what fans demand of their team, bleeding blue and white. All the expectations. And a player that hasn't been offered a new contract, injury prone and clearly wants to be fit to continue his career. That's the reality. Players are all money grabbers and in it for themselves. Not many aren't. So on reflection I'd do exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, TheEnchanter said: Made me chuckle. To be fair it comes down to what fans demand of their team, bleeding blue and white. All the expectations. And a player that hasn't been offered a new contract, injury prone and clearly wants to be fit to continue his career. That's the reality. Players are all money grabbers and in it for themselves. Not many aren't. So on reflection I'd do exactly the same. I can see both sides of the argument on this. What grinds my gears is that I guarantee some knucklehead will give him a standing ovation when he comes back with Stoke. Stood up, arms out, look at me type standing ovation. Zipped up tracksuit top, diabetic belly and breath like cat litter. You know the type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I don’t have sour grapes towards Fletcher. But save the ‘I want to end my career at Wednesday’ and ‘Monk is the best manager I’ve played for’ rubbish Steve. He didn’t mean it so why say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, vulva said: I can see both sides of the argument on this. What grinds my gears is that I guarantee some knucklehead will give him a standing ovation when he comes back with Stoke. Stood up, arms out, look at me type standing ovation. Zipped up tracksuit top, diabetic belly and breath like cat litter. You know the type. I’d boo both Fletch and Fox. It’s what we used to do. But for some reasons we’ve turned into the most softest and sentimental fanbase going. Like the time we gave Tony McMahon a standing ovation when he came off for Boro. He’d played about 8 games for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Sad to see him leave tbh. At times last season he looked like the only player who knew what he was doing. Can’t blame him for seeking out one last decent payday before he retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tight Arse Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Go break a leg Fletch, seriously!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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