Gareth Bale

[Burnsie]

6 hours ago, Rogers said:

If my manager didn’t like me, I was getting overlooked, I’d get a new job. 
 

Difference is he doesn’t my care, cos he’s collecting the coin and playing golf 

But what if your manager says which other job you can go?

[Mole]

It was Real Madrid who offered him the obscene contract in the first place, good on him for riding it out

[Utah Owl]

23 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

 
Earn slightly less? He’s on £675,000 a week. He’ll be halving his wages as a minimum to move on. That’s not a slight wage reduction. 
 

Granted a footballers career lasts 10-15 years you’re right. Even more of a reason to make as much money as he possibly can. Gareth Bale moves to Real Madrid on the basis of his incredible form at Spurs. He earned the move and, the wages which came with it. He’s performed consistently to a very high standard, with match winning goals in numerous cup finals. He’s been frozen out through no fault of his own, if he’s happy in Madrid, why should he move? 
 

Madrid are the ones blocking the move, they want a hefty transfer fee. 

Poor bugger, struggling to get by on only 337,500 per week. My heart bleeds for him!

 

Especially as it takes me 10 years to make that kind of money and they are proposing REDUCING his wages to that amount per week?????

 

FFS I hate the modern game and all the greedy money grabbing 2@s that it involves. Hope it completely implodes globally.

 

It's ordinary everyday people that pay their ridiculous wages through either watching the games (in the grounds or on TV) or buying the products that supplement clubs income through advertising sponsorship deals etc. that add to the price we have to pay in the shops.

Edited August 13, 2020 by Utah Owl

[Guest]

16 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

It really doesn’t matter what his wages are, it’s widely accepted that he’ll have to take around a 50% cut to move. Why should he? He’s not having to move due to poor performances, poor attitude etc, he’s having to move because the manager doesn’t like him. That’s Madrid’s problem not Bale’s. Just because footballers earn obscene amount of money, doesn’t make that different to anyone else. If he was a film star, CEO of a large company, or even a championship footballer, nobody at all would be trying to justify him needing to take a 50% pay cut.
 

Our players were criticised because, barring fletcher, they spent the majority of their time here causing more problems than they’d solved. Bale on the other hand, turned in match winning performances in numerous cup finals and, has been frozen out because Zidane has a chip on his shoulder. He’s had a phenomenal career at the Bernabeu, people are quick to forget that.

 

He’s being spoke about for all the wrong reasons because, people are too narrow minded to look at situation as a whole, it’s automatically Bales fault. Has Bale been fined due to refusing to play? Nope. Has he refused to train? Nope. He’s fulfilling his contractual requirements. Real Madrid are choosing the ignore one of the best players in the world. He’s been frozen out. That’s Real Madrid’s problem, nobody else’s. If he’s such a big problem, pay him up. Job done. 

 

He didn't play against Man City because he didn't want to, that's not fulfilling his contractual obligations.

 

Bale has produced many under par performances in the league in the last two seasons, just like our players who have been criticised - they performed well 3 seasons or so ago. 

 

How do you know Bale hasn't been fined at all for his actions?

 

Player power gone mad.  

[0wl18]

38 minutes ago, Utah Owl said:

Poor bugger, struggling to get by on only 337,500 per week. My heart bleeds for him!

 

Especially as it takes me 10 years to make that kind of money and they are proposing REDUCING his wages to that amount per week?????

 

FFS I hate the modern game and all the greedy money grabbing 2@s that it involves. Hope it completely implodes globally.

 

It's ordinary everyday people that pay their ridiculous wages through either watching the games (in the grounds or on TV) or buying the products that supplement clubs income through advertising sponsorship deals etc. that add to the price we have to pay in the shops.

Im sure you’d feel the same if you were one of the best footballers of your generation too. 
 

It doesn’t matter how much he earns. If Bale doesn’t want to move, he’s doing absolutely nothing wrong by accepting the wage he’s contractually entitled to.

 

 

[0wl18]

40 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

He didn't play against Man City because he didn't want to, that's not fulfilling his contractual obligations.

 

Bale has produced many under par performances in the league in the last two seasons, just like our players who have been criticised - they performed well 3 seasons or so ago. 

 

How do you know Bale hasn't been fined at all for his actions?

 

Player power gone mad.  

Look at the media coverage she’s getting, there’s absolutely no way Gareth Bale has been fined and, the media don’t know about it.

 

Zidane comments on an issue he’s caused, offering his version of events which funnily enough shine him in a better light and, make Bale out to be the problem yet, Zidane is definitely being truthful.

 

Player power gone mad? What an idiotic comment. Gareth Bale is fulfilling his contract and, being paid to do so. By all accounts he has very little influence on the Real Madrid dressing room. You’re right, player power gone mad when a world class player can be forced out of a club because his face doesn’t fit.

[Utah Owl]

30 minutes ago, 0wl18 said:

Im sure you’d feel the same if you were one of the best footballers of your generation too. 
 

It doesn’t matter how much he earns. If Bale doesn’t want to move, he’s doing absolutely nothing wrong by accepting the wage he’s contractually entitled to.

 

 

Doesn't it? That statement is so completely wrong in every regard.

 

Just for context:

 

1. He currently earns (if figures shown above are correct) #675,000 a week, in other words #35.1 million per year

 

2. His proposed cut would still leave him on #337,500 a week or #17.55 million per year

 

3. The average working person in the UK earns circa #30,000 a year (in Spain it is significantly less)

 

4. Bale is earning more in one year than an ordinary person could make if they worked for 115 years!

 

5. Everyone is paying for these inflated wages even if they don't watch the game because the cost of sponsorships etc. gets costed into the products they advertise.

 

6. In any sane, moral world how can that possibly be right?

 

I'm not arguing about the legality of it, just the morality and justice of it and trust me there is none whatsoever.

 

N.B. I am not singling Bale out here, just using him as an example of how ridiculous the remuneration of professional sports people is.

Edited August 13, 2020 by Utah Owl

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, 0wl18 said:

Look at the media coverage she’s getting, there’s absolutely no way Gareth Bale has been fined and, the media don’t know about it.

 

Zidane comments on an issue he’s caused, offering his version of events which funnily enough shine him in a better light and, make Bale out to be the problem yet, Zidane is definitely being truthful.

 

Player power gone mad? What an idiotic comment. Gareth Bale is fulfilling his contract and, being paid to do so. By all accounts he has very little influence on the Real Madrid dressing room. You’re right, player power gone mad when a world class player can be forced out of a club because his face doesn’t fit.

 

If he was being forced out he would go. He has no problem not playing football. Potential to be up their with the best year after year but happy not to play or move to China for the money. 

[0wl18]

6 minutes ago, Utah Owl said:

Doesn't it? That statement is so completely wrong in every regard.

 

Just for context:

 

1. He currently earns (if figures shown above are correct) #675,000 a week, in other words #35.1 million per year

 

2. His proposed cut would still leave him on #337,500 a week or #17.55 million per year

 

3. The average working person in the UK earns circa #30,000 a year (in Spain it is significantly less)

 

4. Bale is earning more in one year than an ordinary person could make if they worked for 115 years!

 

5. Everyone is paying for these inflated wages even if they don't watch the game because the cost of sponsorships etc. gets costed into the products they advertise.

 

6. In any sane, moral world how can that possibly be right?

 

I'm not arguing about the legality of it, just the morality and justice of it and trust me there is none whatsoever.

So what you’re saying is it’s Gareth Bales responsibility to make a stand and take a wage cut, allowing a club to bully him out of a contract he’s entitled to in the interests of morality?

 

The thread is about Gareth Bale. Not the morality of football and, the obscene amounts of money footballers earn. Bale has done nothing wrong. He is seeing out the contract which Real Madrid offered him. Is it morally wrong that you go to work everyday? 
 

 

 

1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

If he was being forced out he would go. He has no problem not playing football. Potential to be up their with the best year after year but happy not to play or move to China for the money. 

Real Madrid wouldn’t allow him to leave to another club within the Champions League. Where was he meant to go? A transfer was agreed, Real Madrid changed the goal posts. Gareth Bales fault.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, 0wl18 said:

So what you’re saying is it’s Gareth Bales responsibility to make a stand and take a wage cut, allowing a club to bully him out of a contract he’s entitled to in the interests of morality?

 

The thread is about Gareth Bale. Not the morality of football and, the obscene amounts of money footballers earn. Bale has done nothing wrong. He is seeing out the contract which Real Madrid offered him. Is it morally wrong that you go to work everyday? 
 

 

 

Real Madrid wouldn’t allow him to leave to another club within the Champions League. Where was he meant to go? A transfer was agreed, Real Madrid changed the goal posts. Gareth Bales fault.

 

real decided they wanted a fee after seeing the Chinese club paying for inferior players. They paid a record fee for Bale, now he'd rather not play football, great commitment. 

Some players are greedy in the sense the play to win and have an innate desire to succeed, others play for the money, I know which I'd rather have playing for my club. 

[NorfolkNChance]

Hard to argue with any of the points of view put across here. That said Bale made 25 appearances in the 19/20 season and was absolutely guff, even managed to get himself sent off and scored 2 goals. Played 90 mins against Sevilla, Ath Madrid and Barcelona as well so not as if he’s been completely shunned.

[oldishowl]

At the end of the day Bale is totally wasting his talent and not playing a game he presumably loves, or does he.

Same as Ozil 

 

They both have more money than they will need for the rest of their lives but are seemingly happy to sit on their backsides, play golf and take the money and dress it up as principles.

When Gareth Bale was a lad did he dream of playing football on the biggest stages in world or dream of sitting at home counting his money. 

[Ever the pessimist]

Pleased someone mentioned Ozil. He gets loads of stick, but as Bale is British it seems to be different to many.

[Rogers]

5 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

So what you’re saying is it’s Gareth Bales responsibility to make a stand and take a wage cut, allowing a club to bully him out of a contract he’s entitled to in the interests of morality?

 

The thread is about Gareth Bale. Not the morality of football and, the obscene amounts of money footballers earn. Bale has done nothing wrong. He is seeing out the contract which Real Madrid offered him. Is it morally wrong that you go to work everyday? 
 

 

 

Real Madrid wouldn’t allow him to leave to another club within the Champions League. Where was he meant to go? A transfer was agreed, Real Madrid changed the goal posts. Gareth Bales fault.

 

There were lots of traditional giants of the game, that most would dream to play for, that were not in the Champions League.  E.g. Loan to Man Utd

[0wl18]

3 hours ago, Rogers said:

 

There were lots of traditional giants of the game, that most would dream to play for, that were not in the Champions League.  E.g. Loan to Man Utd

Which can only happen if Man Utd were interested. Let’s blame Bale now because the ‘traditional giants’ didn’t make an offer to take him on loan.

[Rogers]

6 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

Which can only happen if Man Utd were interested. Let’s blame Bale now because the ‘traditional giants’ didn’t make an offer to take him on loan.

Surely someone who had incredible form at Spurs and performed consistently to a very high standard at Real, with match winning goals in numerous cup finals would attract some interest. 
 

[0wl18]

2 hours ago, Rogers said:

Surely someone who had incredible form at Spurs and performed consistently to a very high standard at Real, with match winning goals in numerous cup finals would attract some interest. 
 

At £675,000 a week he’s out of pretty much everyone’s price range isn’t he.
 

That’s the whole point. It’s not Bales fault that Madrid have effectively priced him out of a move.

 

For a team to take on those wages a fee would be minimal + they’d want to own him considering they’d be paying £30M+.

 

Madrid either need to play him or, subsidise a move.

Edited August 14, 2020 by 0wl18

[the third man]

On 12/08/2020 at 19:43, 0wl18 said:

 
Earn slightly less? He’s on £675,000 a week. He’ll be halving his wages as a minimum to move on. That’s not a slight wage reduction. 
 

 

 

Unless he is really stupid he has already earnt enough money to leave him well off for the rest of his life, so he could easily play for nothing (an extreme i know) if he wants to play football

[Guest]

20 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

So what you’re saying is it’s Gareth Bales responsibility to make a stand and take a wage cut, allowing a club to bully him out of a contract he’s entitled to in the interests of morality?

 

The thread is about Gareth Bale. Not the morality of football and, the obscene amounts of money footballers earn. Bale has done nothing wrong. He is seeing out the contract which Real Madrid offered him. Is it morally wrong that you go to work everyday? 
 

 

 

Real Madrid wouldn’t allow him to leave to another club within the Champions League. Where was he meant to go? A transfer was agreed, Real Madrid changed the goal posts. Gareth Bales fault.

 

What he needs to do is keeping working hard to get back into the side and prove his worth.

He signed for Real Madrid for £80M and is paid a fee that has him among the biggest earners in the game. Last season he scored 16 goals in 50 games and this season he has scored 5 goals in 25 games. It's not as if Zidane hasn't given him opportunities to prove his worth based on the number of appearances yet when he is left out, justifiably based on those stats, he sulks, acts like a spoiled kid on the bench and decides he doesn't fancy it much.

 

The best players play to win, strive to succeed year on year and earn the money that this brings. Others play to earn the money and are happy to sit on it once they have got to that point. 

 

 

 

 

[scram]

Maybe he doesn't really like playing football - it's far from unheard of

 

Maybe what keeps him playing is money he cannot refuse - maybe he thinks that is his worth - which he's fully entitled to believe

 

Some players play at whatever level they can - happy to drop down the leagues and take a relative pittance just cos they love playing

 

Looks like Bale plays for money - that's entirely up to him