pazowl55 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: We picked up 12 points in the last 15 games of last season. If we carry on in the same form next season and are on zero points after 15 games, to have a chance of staying up we would need promotion form in the remaining 31 games. I wonder how long those in the pro Monk camp would carry on supporting him if we have a bad start to the season. Say we didn't win a game in the first 6 and are something like 15 points adrift of the next team. Then obviously we would all be wanting him out. I think he gets a minimum of about 10 games to judge him then if we are still miles behind let him go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Big Jack said: He is in charge, no one else is or will be. If you cant back your manager then what sort of supporter are you . New season, lets see where he takes us before we get sharpening the knives. one with eyes and opinions i follow Wednesday blindly, no one else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: Then obviously we would all be wanting him out. I think he gets a minimum of about 10 games to judge him then if we are still miles behind let him go. by then if it goes like the 2nd half of last season we will be down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, the third man said: by then if it goes like the 2nd half of last season we will be down How long do we give him then? 1st game and if he dont win it he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: Then obviously we would all be wanting him out. I think he gets a minimum of about 10 games to judge him then if we are still miles behind let him go. That's fair enough, though personally I think we need a new manager now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: How long do we give him then? 1st game and if he dont win it he's gone. He goes now, otherwise we are in trouble, i really hope i am wrong and that the whole season goes like the first half of last, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: That's fair enough, though personally I think we need a new manager now. Not going to happen is it. I think he has till about November time unless results are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, the third man said: Remind me how many he got last season, and would we have been relegated with -12 points Yeh but,last season is just so...............................................well,last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: Yeh but,last season is just so...............................................well,last season. and the only guide we have to this I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I’m not sure how he is still here, but as he is we should see how the first 6 games go. It’s going to be a nervy season all the way through. Concentrate on getting some players in, if they’re ok, the fans might be slightly more positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, the third man said: and the only guide we have to this I'm afraid Rubbish,new season,new optimism,like it,get on board,or just wallow in last seasons results,which are confined to history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: Rubbish,new season,new optimism,like it,get on board,or just wallow in last seasons results,which are confined to history. OK love the optimism, hope your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, alanharper said: But what's his win record as SWFC manager though? Including his record from expensively assembled Swansea, Leeds and Boro teams is no indication that he'll sustain a similar record here. Win record at Swansea was 38% but he’s fared better in the Championship with Boro and Leeds at 46 and 47%, worse at Brum with 33% but somehow avoided relegation after 9 point deduction. His win record at Hillsborough since his appointment (think it was Huddersfield game) is 33% including cup games. If that continued we’d certainly be relegated.....unless we managed a mountain of draws of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlett Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, GLOwl said: Looking at those stats, both bielsa and wilder had points per game very similar to monks at some point in their careers. Thats the problem with stats. Let's see how he does with his pre-season and some of his own players. Then we can fully judge him. Stop with the cherry picking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 We shouldn’t even be having this conversation about Monk. The fact that it is taking place is simply another failing of our owner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Elderly Owl said: And all of those inherited an ageing side That had been dropped in the kack by Bruce eh? Many of them had far worse than the so called " talent " that was on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Elderly Owl said: Apart from the fact he is the manager of Sheffield Wednesday of course. and it’s the first pre season he’s had.. ..and he’s managed to clear out the dead wood to a degree and he will hopefully be bringing in players that he can work with and ( hopefully) his own back room team. you’re a bit glass half empty aren’t you? No Just a realist He is a very poor manager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Looking at the current trend(Bournmouth,Bristol City) those who wish Monk gone before the season starts,maybe need to think again,unless of course they want Bullen to have a go.(again) Worrying signs too that the Chinese are playing hard ball with the Premier league,& allegedly withholding payments for TV rights in China.(as well as no lucrative pre season tours to China,for the big boys) (Politics not football the alleged cause? Chinese Govt?) With no supporters,than only 25% of capacity,Maybe delayed season start,and Money drying up,the games going to be forced to change.....Watch this space.... Bruce with a budget of 30 Million is still confident at Newcastle he can bring in,or loan decant players.lets hope Monk can do the same.(with 30 bob) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William 1867 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 He’s finished here and it’s just a matter of time. The resigning of Pelupessy said all we need to know about Monk. Just wondering what his new excuses are going to be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ozymandias said: We shouldn’t even be having this conversation about Monk. The fact that it is taking place is simply another failing of our owner. Yes & you forgot to mention Monk was the third gunman,on the 'grassy knoll'......havnt you twigged yet?? Who have Bristol City, & Bournmouth appointed as replacement Managers? One a side with parachute payments?..The team were the ones who failed,they let themselves,the supporters,the Manager,& the Chairman down.... It was all there on the pitch,for all to see, & off the pitch with the same Players being dropped by two different Managers,those who were allegedly conveniently 'injured' or 'out of form'.....list is endless...........Pointless blaming Monk... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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