malek Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 What we need the most next season is a "fresh start" and resigning Likes of Pelupessey, Nuhiu, Lee... Will kill any notion of this right away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 we will miss him 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: You do realise the whole Bergkamp thing is a long running piss-take (mainly for Ian's benefit) to demonstrate how easy it is to show what slavishly quoting numbers is worth, right? Half of Nuhiu's appearances were from the bench, unlike Hooper, Fletcher and Forestieri who managed a whole 1 or 2 goals more than him per season on average. His record was much the same as Joao's and better than our club record signing who's total Owls output he managed to match in just 4 months. So again, why do people employ a standard for Nuhiu that they exempt others of? Sorry I didn't realise the Bergkamp thing. The others offer more - but like I've said I don't think any are particularly that good. I would say Fletcher was the best for his all round play (my neighbour is a big Sunderland fan, his comments on us signing him at the time were - "big money, injured all the time" - Nuhiu doesn't have any all round play. I personally see nothing to his game other than him being big, to be used as a target man (which he isn't very good at). If he were a foot shorter, would he be a professional footballer - I very much doubt it, as his game is that limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: Sorry I didn't realise the Bergkamp thing. The others offer more - but like I've said I don't think any are particularly that good. I would say Fletcher was the best for his all round play (my neighbour is a big Sunderland fan, his comments on us signing him at the time were - "big money, injured all the time" - Nuhiu doesn't have any all round play. I personally see nothing to his game other than him being big, to be used as a target man (which he isn't very good at). If he were a foot shorter, would he be a professional footballer - I very much doubt it, as his game is that limited. He is far better than he gets credit for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: He is far better than he gets credit for. Let’s see where he ends up then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: Sorry I didn't realise the Bergkamp thing. The others offer more - but like I've said I don't think any are particularly that good. I would say Fletcher was the best for his all round play (my neighbour is a big Sunderland fan, his comments on us signing him at the time were - "big money, injured all the time" - Nuhiu doesn't have any all round play. I personally see nothing to his game other than him being big, to be used as a target man (which he isn't very good at). If he were a foot shorter, would he be a professional footballer - I very much doubt it, as his game is that limited. How many Wednesday games have you been to in the last few years? I find it hard to believe reading your posts that you’ve been to many, or if you have you’ve blinded yourself of Nuhiu. Or are you one of those that leaves at 75 minutes every game no matter the score? When Nuhiu is brought on near the end of a game, he creates havoc and is a nightmare for defenders, and I think he’s technically a much better footballer than what you’re making out. He creates chances for us and runs past defenders. By all means he’s never been good enough to be a starter for us, but bringing him on for the last 20 minutes when defenders are tiring, we will miss that. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Carbone said: How many Wednesday games have you been to in the last few years? I find it hard to believe reading your posts that you’ve been to many, or if you have you’ve blinded yourself of Nuhiu. Or are you one of those that leaves at 75 minutes every game no matter the score? When Nuhiu is brought on near the end of a game, he creates havoc and is a nightmare for defenders, and I think he’s technically a much better footballer than what you’re making out. He creates chances for us and runs past defenders. By all means he’s never been good enough to be a starter for us, but bringing him on for the last 20 minutes when defenders are tiring, we will miss that. Enough games to see how dire Nuhiu is. The sad fact is when he signed I thought, big guy up front, this is a good move, his performances quickly changed my mind. I disagree that he will be missed and could say your blinded by sentiment. Let's see where he ends up if he leaves us. IMO I would rather have a goal threat coming on with 10 minutes left who will actually 'run' at tired defenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Carbone said: By all means he’s never been good enough to be a starter for us, but bringing him on for the last 20 minutes when defenders are tiring, we will miss that. The opposition defenders will as the amount of free kicks he gives away allows them a break and another chance to time waste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: Let’s see where he ends up then Same could be said for Forestieri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew6666 said: Sorry I didn't realise the Bergkamp thing. The others offer more - but like I've said I don't think any are particularly that good. I would say Fletcher was the best for his all round play (my neighbour is a big Sunderland fan, his comments on us signing him at the time were - "big money, injured all the time" - Nuhiu doesn't have any all round play. I personally see nothing to his game other than him being big, to be used as a target man (which he isn't very good at). If he were a foot shorter, would he be a professional footballer - I very much doubt it, as his game is that limited. No need to apologise as he was deadly serious when he first posted it. Only for everyone to rip the p1ss. He then backtracked very quickly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Emilianenko said: No need to apologise as he was deadly serious when he first posted it. Only for everyone to rip the p1ss. He then backtracked very quickly Still desperately craving my attention? Want a signed picture of my ass cheeks? Edited August 11, 2020 by DJMortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew6666 said: Enough games to see how dire Nuhiu is. The sad fact is when he signed I thought, big guy up front, this is a good move, his performances quickly changed my mind. I disagree that he will be missed and could say your blinded by sentiment. Let's see where he ends up if he leaves us. IMO I would rather have a goal threat coming on with 10 minutes left who will actually 'run' at tired defenders. So you’re right and every manager we’ve had since 2013 is wrong, fair enough. I’m not the one who is blinded when I am explaining the threat he brought us from the bench, you are if you don’t acknowledge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew6666 said: Enough games to see how dire Nuhiu is. The sad fact is when he signed I thought, big guy up front, this is a good move, his performances quickly changed my mind. I disagree that he will be missed and could say your blinded by sentiment. Let's see where he ends up if he leaves us. IMO I would rather have a goal threat coming on with 10 minutes left who will actually 'run' at tired defenders. I am looking forward to having said forward on the bench who is both a fast runner and a goal thread - a modern day Ian Wright perhaps, or maybe Gabriel Jesus who I know has always craved sitting on the Sheffield wednesday bench ready to come on against Wycombe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Carbone said: So you’re right and every manager we’ve had since 2013 is wrong, fair enough. I’m not the one who is blinded when I am explaining the threat he brought us from the bench, you are if you don’t acknowledge it. How much success have those managers had using this tactic? Maybe I see success as rated higher than sentiment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 hours ago, DSandersonOWL said: Top half or bottom half? We are aiming for Play-Offs! Thought Nuhiu very good squad member, and good entertainment, but seems to be time to move on... Could he take **** with him! 18 hours ago, SettleForADraw said: Another who doesn’t get sarcasm.. I’M MOCKING THE MORONS A lesson in sarcasm, for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, pazowl55 said: Same could be said for Forestieri. Quite right. I posted at the time, he should have been shown the door the day he refused to travel to Norwich (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Still desperately craving my attention? Want a signed picture of my ass cheeks? Not craving anything, just stopping you rewriting history after embarrassing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: Quite right. I posted at the time, he should have been shown the door the day he refused to travel to Norwich (I think). And we would have pocketed 8m, instead of nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, mrbluesky said: And we would have pocketed 8m, instead of nowt. TBH I would have taken a lot less to get him out based on principal. He disrespected the club, the management, his team mates, and the fans that day. You don't bite the hand that feeds!!! Thinking we could have got £8m now makes me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: How much success have those managers had using this tactic? Maybe I see success as rated higher than sentiment. I think if you asked those managers, some who have managed in the Premier League, Europa League, coached in the Prem, they would all tell you he was a good option to have off the bench, otherwise they wouldn’t have continued to use it. Andrew6666 knows more than all those managers put together though right? When you say sentiment, you’re completely ignoring the point made about the havoc he caused tired defenders when he came on, that’s not sentiment, it’s a factual observation of what he did when he came on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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