Ronnie Starling Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, scram said: I don't doubt what you are saying or have experience of but if we do not have a GK coach for the younger kids we are not fulfilling the mandatory criteria to be a cat 2 academy And the latest 2 stage audit of academies is much more stringent than previous That was my experience. I guess it has changed in recent times but it was disgraceful the way they let youngsters down at the academy. A player not being good enough is acceptable but the academy not providing the basic resources to give a youngster every opportunity to develop is scandalous. If it had been a school OFSTED would have shut it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: That was my experience. I guess it has changed in recent times but it was disgraceful the way they let youngsters down at the academy. A player not being good enough is acceptable but the academy not providing the basic resources to give a youngster every opportunity to develop is scandalous. If it had been a school OFSTED would have shut it down. What year is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Grez Bez said: What year is this? Period between 2010 and 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: Period between 2010 and 2014 You do know things can change in six years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, bladeshater said: You do know things can change in six years But they haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: But they haven't. It's opinions but mine is it as improved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, bladeshater said: It's opinions but mine is it as improved On what evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: On what evidence? Was in your lad / grandkid at the academy between those years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Grez Bez said: Was in your lad / grandkid at the academy between those years? He was. Sometimes we were waiting for a text on a Saturday evening for details and arrangements of the game the following day. It was quite embarrassing to think that the Sunday league team he previously played for was far better organised and run than a Category 2 professional football team academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smackavolley Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: He was. Sometimes we were waiting for a text on a Saturday evening for details and arrangements of the game the following day. It was quite embarrassing to think that the Sunday league team he previously played for was far better organised and run than a Category 2 professional football team academy. Many Sunday teams are better organised. Pitch availability is a nightmare for the younger age groups. Most fixtures are played away. Your earlier point about paying for kit and trips. In my experience, the club have always supplied kit and paid for trips. Maybe 10 years ago it was different but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: On what evidence? On the evidence I walked round I knew some of the coaches and staff working there 6 years ago and barring the last few months I visit regularly the same complex and see the changes that have been made with the coaches and the infrastructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, bladeshater said: On the evidence I walked round I knew some of the coaches and staff working there 6 years ago and barring the last few months I visit regularly the same complex and see the changes that have been made with the coaches and the infrastructure Its still miles behind just about every other academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Its still miles behind just about every other academy. So you have visited every other academy interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, bladeshater said: So you have visited every other academy interesting I've been to Man City Man Utd Leicester Newcastle Sunderland Barnsley Derby Forest Leeds Everton United Huddersfield Middlesbrough The majority within our scouting patch and all were much better than ours. Our senior coaches were often reluctant to make the long trips and instead opted for the home games. While teams visiting us would come with a goalkeeping coach to warm up their keepers while we were lucky if the keeper coach could be bothered to turn up to the home games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORKSOP_OWL Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: I've been to Man City Man Utd Leicester Newcastle Sunderland Barnsley Derby Forest Leeds Everton United Huddersfield Middlesbrough The majority within our scouting patch and all were much better than ours. Our senior coaches were often reluctant to make the long trips and instead opted for the home games. While teams visiting us would come with a goalkeeping coach to warm up their keepers while we were lucky if the keeper coach could be bothered to turn up to the home games. We don’t scout out of Sheffield at junior level. we get approached by CAT 1 teams when they are getting let go for ‘exit trials’ we have no active scouts within the academy set up outside of Sheffield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 12 hours ago, WORKSOP_OWL said: We don’t scout out of Sheffield at junior level. we get approached by CAT 1 teams when they are getting let go for ‘exit trials’ we have no active scouts within the academy set up outside of Sheffield. I appreciate they have far more money and resources but Man City have over 50 just in Yorkshire headed up by one of our former scouts. A mate of mine used to scout for us in West Yorkshire but packed it in as it was more hassle trying to get his expenses and club attire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORKSOP_OWL Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: I appreciate they have far more money and resources but Man City have over 50 just in Yorkshire headed up by one of our former scouts. A mate of mine used to scout for us in West Yorkshire but packed it in as it was more hassle trying to get his expenses and club attire. They have a development centre in Barnsley and of lads impress there they get invited to their academy. our whole set up is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 16/08/2020 at 11:35, Ronnie Starling said: He was. Sometimes we were waiting for a text on a Saturday evening for details and arrangements of the game the following day. It was quite embarrassing to think that the Sunday league team he previously played for was far better organised and run than a Category 2 professional football team academy. I was rung up at 11pm to get him to Blackburn for 11 am the next morning , good job he was in Sheff for a few days at his aunts on the cross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smackavolley Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Here's the latest batch of 1st year scholars for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 What’s happening with the U23 recruitment? There’s no 12 point deduction to put them off, and yet we’ve seen no movement there either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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