Stuart Gray

[Owl999]

8 hours ago, upperwinngardensowl said:

Discarded by a chairman who didn’t think he was “sexy” enough. 

Never given a chance

Discarded by the Chairman for not agreeing to his way of running the Club 

[Athelwulf]

3 hours ago, Hamakua Pueo said:

So it’s the fans’ fault then?

 

In part, although new chairmen usually like their own managers.

 

Chansiri wanted to please the fans, so we got a new pitch, a new scoreboard, a shedload of forwards and a new manager.

 

I guess he addressed the things which the fans had complained about.

 

Bar bonny 'Boro, we'd got the best defensive record in the league under Gray.

 

A couple of decent strikers and a winger to add to what we had and who knows?

 

In the end, we finished up playing the same kind of football as we had under Gray.

 

Except we had to pay a king's ransom to watch it.

[Athelwulf]

6 hours ago, heppers said:

I am sure he will give DC a wave on the way to the Prem.

 

Anyway, our loyalty lies with Bully the omnipresent super coach.

 

Another one stealing a living.

[quinnssweetshop]

40 minutes ago, English Man said:

Can someone list Chansiri's many mistakes and send them to him in a letter titled, "Don't Do This"? 

 

I can't be bothered. 

Think of the trees mate !!!  So many cut down trees !!!!!

[Athelwulf]

8 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Kind of man we should have kept on at the club. 
 

Could he have gone one better than Carlos? Who knows. 

 

I think so, Sally.

 

You start at the back, and we'd got the second best defence in the league.

 

What we needed was firepower to add to what Gray had built.

 

'Boro went up under Karanka playing a similar style, but with better players.

 

Chansiri bought forwards because he wanted to please the fans, but we wound up playing the same way.

[kobayashi]

Gray is probably a good coach and did an ok job as manager of SWFC but it’s not like they binned off Klopp. The oddity was the initial plan to replace him with a coach from Swindon. 

[heppers]

4 minutes ago, kobayashi said:

Gray is probably a good coach and did an ok job as manager of SWFC but it’s not like they binned off Klopp. The oddity was the initial plan to replace him with a coach from Swindon. 

You do realise we are Sheffield Wednesday?

[dorian gray]

9 hours ago, upperwinngardensowl said:

Discarded by a chairman who didn’t think he was “sexy” enough. 

Never given a chance

who is now heavily paying the price.

[dorian gray]

9 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said:

To be fair to the chairman the football under Gray was dire.

he had ten bob and a blackies egg for forwards, much like monk he had eff all in the squad but numbers in m/f and defence to grind out enough points to avoid relegation with, but in true wednesday fashion it wasn't understood by the inpatient fanbase, axe in hand, stood in grinding wheel queue.

at the end of the season we trashed the parties of both title contenders on their own turf, with the ref blowing the final whistle to avoid us beating watford.

but abandoned his thinking, turned the lot upside down, urinated money up against the wall on 'correct' type footballers, won jack s**t, and arrived back at grinding out results to stave off relegation because we had no forwards.

ONLY IT SEEMS AT SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY is it groundhog day.

[torryowl]

Think his card was marked when the transfer committee brought in melo,vermilj&bus and gray hardly ever played them .

[Guest mrbluesky]

Hindsight is a great thing, I feel under the current leadership, he would have failed, bit like the rest of them and I don`t just mean from a promotion point of view.

[mcmigo]

Would rather have our promotion hero Dave ‘ the builder ‘ jones back . 

[dorian gray]

9 hours ago, cowl said:

I suspect DC was ‘advised’ to bring someone else in.

i suspect you're correct.

'you don't need gray, look we've got this bloke dan petrescue...ooops! he's gone, never mind here's jorge costa...oh no! he's gone too.

look we've got sergio conceicao...or rather we had, but here's paulo fonseca...oh! not again, quick we've got jokanovic freshly from watford...well we thought we had, but never mind all the successful candidates we've named, this one's a cert. had umpteen and one jobs, never lasted above 5 minutes, and been unemployable for the last 3 years, we can get him, he's his own man with his own distinctive ideas on football, what could go wrong?'.

it's like setting off to buy a rolls royce, a bentley, aston martin, 911, jag, and ending up with a reliant 3 wheeler but splashing out on a set of alloys, recaro seats, and a stainless sports exhaust for it.

[dorian gray]

8 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

Would rather have our promotion hero Dave ‘ the builder ‘ jones back . 

what is he 'building' now?

[Andrew6666]

It shows that when a manager has a reliable backroom staff that they trust what can be achieved, hence Parker stating it was the best move he made in retaining Grey (a specialist assistant manager/first team coach). If only our club would look at the successes of other clubs (no matter how small) and try and follow their model, instead of trying to create our own dire episode which continues to fail.

 

[Ronnie Starling]

Just now, dorian gray said:

i suspect you're correct.

'you don't need gray, look we've got this bloke dan petrescue...ooops! he's gone, never mind here's jorge costa...oh no! he's gone too.

look we've got sergio conceicao...or rather we had, but here's paulo fonseca...oh! not again, quick we've got jokanovic freshly from watford...well we thought we had, but never mind all the successful candidates we've named, this one's a cert. had umpteen and one jobs, never lasted above 5 minutes, and been unemployable for the last 3 years, we can get him, he's his own man with his own distinctive ideas on football, what could go wrong?'.

it's like setting off to buy a rolls royce, a bentley, aston martin, 911, jag, and ending up with a reliant 3 wheeler but splashing out on a set of alloys, recaro seats, and a stainless sports exhaust for it.

The 3 wheeler managed to limp to Wembley but missing the fourth wheel meant the distance to the Premier League was a journey too far. Would any of the those mentioned or Gray had completed the job we will never know but at the end of the 2015-2016 season the majority of Wednesday fans were very happy with the ways things were going.

[dorian gray]

1 minute ago, Andrew6666 said:

It shows that when a manager has a reliable backroom staff that they trust what can be achieved, hence Parker stating it was the best move he made in retaining Grey (a specialist assistant manager/first team coach). If only our club would look at the successes of other clubs (no matter how small) and try and follow their model, instead of trying to create our own dire episode which continues to fail.

 

when mm bought the club it was stripped bare to keep overheads at a minimum before a buyer could be found, thus little sheffield wednesday continuity.

[dorian gray]

2 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

The 3 wheeler managed to limp to Wembley but missing the fourth wheel meant the distance to the Premier League was a journey too far. Would any of the those mentioned or Gray had completed the job we will never know but at the end of the 2015-2016 season the majority of Wednesday fans were very happy with the ways things were going.

so won nothing then, no trophies, no promotion, an unbalanced injured squad, the only fortune this club had had in 25 years spent, us in p&s trouble, left before what looked like relegation.

PROPER MANAGER.  

[dorian gray]

15 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

The 3 wheeler managed to limp to Wembley but missing the fourth wheel meant the distance to the Premier League was a journey too far. Would any of the those mentioned or Gray had completed the job we will never know but at the end of the 2015-2016 season the majority of Wednesday fans were very happy with the ways things were going.

and time proved them wrong.

football supporters will always be happy with their club spending heavily in the transfer market.

but less so when gate prices go through the roof to help cover it.

[Ronnie Starling]

5 minutes ago, dorian gray said:

so won nothing then, no trophies, no promotion, an unbalanced injured squad, the only fortune this club had had in 25 years spent, us in p&s trouble, left before what looked like relegation.

PROPER MANAGER.  

I agree but many of our fan base seem to have developed extremely short memories of the periods of the Gray management and early days of Carvalhal plus at Fulham Gray worked with players and a squad budget far in excess of anything we have had to work with.