SallyCinnamon Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Had the pleasure of speaking to Stuart Gray at length about football and Wednesday. Very knowledgable and likeable man. Unfortunately wasn’t flash enough for DC and his advisers. Gamble nearly paid off with Carlos, but we would be in a far better position now if we stuck with Gray in my opinion. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, upperwinngardensowl said: Do you remember what the pitch was like? Pep couldn’t have produced good football on that. The other team has to play on it too you know. 5 wins and 16 goals at Hillsborough that season. Not exactly entertaining is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 has he been relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Would have him here as a coach, assistant but not manager. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, WalthamOwl said: Would have him here as a coach, assistant but not manager. This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, WalthamOwl said: Would have him here as a coach, assistant but not manager. Thats a sensible post. A good coach but never a manager. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Never a manager? Did a better job at Wednesday than Luhukay and Monk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Never a manager? Did a better job at Wednesday than Luhukay and Monk. they are never managers either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basegreenowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Gray had much less in funds during his time here compared to Carlos. Think we were around mid-table under Gray. Skip on to now and where are we? First mistake. I was thinking Gray with backing? Ends up with Carlos with that much talked of first season style brand. Yet bring in the final against Hull City and we didn't even go for it. Same can be said for the next season playoff semi against Huddersfield. So negative. Games to be won and we didn't even turn up. That's the Carlos measure. Along comes Jos. Awful, though never got much backing. Then we see Bruce who walks and now Monk with his great last season haul and now facing that minus 12. For me I look at the outcome of appointments not what was good during the reigns. Gets rid of Gray. Then hires four managers. All failed to date. Then he causes the points deduction. OK. Maybe DC will come good. But what he has done prior he needs to not keep doing. Obvious but fact. Edited August 4, 2020 by basegreenowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Ronnie Starling said: To be fair to the chairman the football under Gray was dire. You mean like it is now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocklington owl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Gray not a manager only a assistant’monk is a fool and a useless one at that he couldn’t even be a assistant fool because he’s the no1 fool .MONK OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Likeable bloke but if he was a great manager he'd be doing the job somewhere instead of being the bridesmaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, jack whitham said: You mean like it is now. Its not good now but as I posted earlier that doesn't mean the football under Gray was good. 16 goals and 5 wins at Hillsborough during the 2014-2015 season. Do you think the chairman was going to go with Gray after watching the finish to that season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kew Owl said: Whereas now it’s quite good, is it ? It was until Carlos was binned... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's impossible to know what Gray would or could have achieved had he stayed. I think we would have been in the Champions League by now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, swfcjack27 said: If he could’ve been persuaded to stay as assistant alongside Carlos we would’ve been a Premier League team after that first season I’m pretty confident of it. Outstanding coach. Agree with this. He has always done his best work as a coach not a manager. Would probably have been difficult to appoint someone above him and expect him to stay on as coach though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocklington owl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 We haven’t even got a good bridesmaid slinger208b ‘bullen weaver Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Never a manager? Did a better job at Wednesday than Luhukay and Monk. Hardly the greatest achievement. Gray has again achieved success at what he is best at, coaching and assisting, not managing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I am sure he will give DC a wave on the way to the Prem. Anyway, our loyalty lies with Bully the omnipresent super coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Kew Owl said: Whereas now it’s quite good, is it ? How else can you explain the ticket prices? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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