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I'd be surprised if a couple didn't go into administration next season and goodness knows how many in league 1 and league 2

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3 minutes ago, mattitheowl said:

 

I don't really care how.  The more the better!  You'd have to think there will be others close to admin and a few on the P&S bubble.

 

By the time the EFL and its carefully chosen independent panel have had 8 meetings to agree on a date for the first official meeting and then started proceedings against Derby and other clubs,  we'll be in league 2 anyway. 

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27 minutes ago, EXCALIBUR said:

Like I said, be interesting to see our next move 


EFL might appeal to protect themselves against those clubs but not sure what they can achieve given the cut off date for the season is mid August. They’d have to relegate us next week

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28 minutes ago, Lemi_the_owl said:

 

Doesn't sound too appealing does it.

Doesn't appeal to me. 

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It was never going to be overturned or reduced. 
 

99% of clubs that have ended up in Admin it’s been because the owner mismanaged the situation at some point. The detail in Wigan’s case does make the punishment seem incredibly harsh but the EFL, as much as I dislike them, don’t have the resources to forensically look into each case and reach an ‘appropriate’ punishment.

 

The rule on Admin is the rule, unfortunately.

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23 minutes ago, The Wall said:

Putting out situation aside, it's a f*cking disgrace what's happened to Wigan

 

Yep the owners putting them into administration 3 weeks afters buying them, nothing at all fishy there.

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Just now, NeonLeon said:

It was never going to be overturned or reduced. 
 

99% of clubs that have ended up in Admin it’s been because the owner mismanaged the situation at some point. The detail in Wigan’s case does make the punishment seem incredibly harsh but the EFL, as much as I dislike them, don’t have the resources to forensically look into each case and reach an ‘appropriate’ punishment.

 

The rule on Admin is the rule, unfortunately.

like ive said before..all the EFL have to do is demand a bond thats worth more than the deliberate dismantling of the said club is.

That bond is forfeit if the owners mismanage the club ..That would stop any assett stripping....

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3 minutes ago, asteener1867 said:

like ive said before..all the EFL have to do is demand a bond thats worth more than the deliberate dismantling of the said club is.

That bond is forfeit if the owners mismanage the club ..That would stop any assett stripping....


But the clubs have to vote in favour of that happening, which in turn means all the owners in the EFL agreeing to it.

 

Its the right thing to do, but it’d be like  turkeys voting for Christmas.

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52 minutes ago, EXCALIBUR said:

Be interesting to see if we going to appeal. Apparently Charlton have 9 clubs backing them.

Bet the tin-pot tykes are one of them.

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54 minutes ago, EXCALIBUR said:

Be interesting to see if we going to appeal. Apparently Charlton have 9 clubs backing them.

 

whatever problems Charlton have, or think they have, can have no effect on us, the ruling is made and that's that

 

However we can appeal, and may do when we see why the ruling was made

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Clubs could force a rule change possibly, but there's no way it could be applied retrospectively to a single club over a single issue, or even retrospectively at all.

 

 

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Tough titty, rules is rules 

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It does look like the whole system needs a reset- from parachute payments, ‘Fair Play’, owner administration etc. 
 

a wage cap and owners personally responsible for all liabilities should solve it. If you’re over say 18m, then you’re over and you can’t sign anyone until you have room. 

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Neither us or the EFL have had the written report on the adjudication form the independent panel yet. Once us and them receive it we have 14 days to appeal. That means that if both parties received it tomorrow they'd have around 3 weeks to hear the appeal and adjudicate on the appeal. Sounds like classic stalling tactics by the EFL 😀

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6 minutes ago, darra said:

Neither us or the EFL have had the written report on the adjudication form the independent panel yet. Once us and them receive it we have 14 days to appeal. That means that if both parties received it tomorrow they'd have around 3 weeks to hear the appeal and adjudicate on the appeal. Sounds like classic stalling tactics by the EFL 😀

Will be interesting to dad it when it comes out as I can’t see why our deduction hasn’t been applied to the 2019/20 season.

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20 minutes ago, djorkaeff said:

It does look like the whole system needs a reset- from parachute payments, ‘Fair Play’, owner administration etc. 
 

a wage cap and owners personally responsible for all liabilities should solve it. If you’re over say 18m, then you’re over and you can’t sign anyone until you have room. 

No the payment the relegated clubs get for failure should be the FFP  figure for all the Championship clubs eg: £45M next season for Norwich et al

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1 hour ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said:

Derby?

 

Pretty sure they won't be getting a deduction. 

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1 hour ago, bladeshater said:

EFL look foolish for there lack of due diligence

Exactly.......the EFL ******** up big time.....and punish Wigan. Its laughable.

EFL simply arent fit for purpose. Id rather take the minus 12 this season, than next......but then whos next for minus 12??? Its only a matter of time until 3 or 4 clubs will be starting on minus 12

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So the EFL are punishing a club that's gone into administration by a owner that the EFL passed on  'fit and proper person' test

 

Well done EFL 

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