full fathom five Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Striggy said: Nobody needs drink to be optimistic, just belief. Some on here should try it, makes life much more enjoyable. Do you still believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCOWl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, 0114 said: He’s got an impossible job for me. Having to replace 7/8 players in 5/6 weeks with a points deduction, no financial backing, none of his backroom staff and the supporters on your back. Fair play if he can but I’m really struggling to be optimistic about next season. You make it sound difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, room0035 said: We have release 12 players We have just 2 weeks max before the players are back for preseason, we don't have enough players to form a team currently our only striker option is a bloke who the manager does not play. The manager wants to play a 3-5-2 but has no wingback at the club. We need to instill a mentality to try and keep us up next season, waiting until the end of the transfer window to bring in a few loans after we have got even further adrift is not the way. This is not a normal preseason we have 6 weeks, before the new season starts if players are not in the club on day one of preseason we are in trouble. Remember Monk excuse why we were so bad last season because he didn't get a preseason with the players. We need some positivity at the club and a glimmer of belief that we can stay up next season. If you give the fans and players some hope it can go a long way to improving the club. Just a slight correction to your statement there. our only striker option is a bloke who all recent managers did not play The manager wants to play a 3-5-2 but has no wingback at the club. Monk has never stated that and I don't believe he particularly does, it seems to have been forced on him to revert to that due to the players he had at his disposal. He has not played that formation at his previous clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, full fathom five said: Do you still believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy? of course, doesn't everyone? "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: It is..if your realistic about stuff you wont get too down when we have a crap season..if you believe we are goin to sign great players and get promoted you will be gutted this time next year..and you will look silly i do not wish for anything, just believe we gonna be alright and give it a go. I do not get too down if things don't go well, why should i get down by worrying that they may do, much more fun and life pleasing to look forward with enthusiasm. Any way, enjoy the rest of your day, i will. 1 "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I hope people don't have short memories! 17 points fro 69 4 wins from 23. Forget the excuses, that record is inexcusable at any football club! 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: I hope people don't have short memories! 17 points fro 69 4 wins from 23. Forget the excuses, that record is inexcusable at any football club! New season. New players. New ideas. Clean slate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 The silence from him since the points deduction is deafening. I’d have thought he would have been trying to rally everyone now but no? I’ll get slated again for thinking he’s on his way out but I can’t see any other explanation for the silence at the minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Jim said: The silence from him since the points deduction is deafening. WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FOOOOOOOOKKKKKKK Are you on about????? 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FOOOOOOOOKKKKKKK Are you on about????? And right on cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: New season. New players. New ideas. Clean slate. Why should he have a clean slate? He's had 46 games to put new ideas across, if anything he's made us worse! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: I hope people don't have short memories! 17 points fro 69 4 wins from 23. Forget the excuses, that record is inexcusable at any football club! That's not his record at Sheffield Wednesday though mate. Thats just a selected part of his record to try and back up your agenda/stance You've not put the whole picture in at all Bit disingenuous that really if we're honest By all means have a discussion on whether someone is the right fit or not, but doctoring stats to try and win a point is poor form Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Jim said: And right on cue I'm serious What are you on about??? When was the last time a manager issued some kind of random unexpected rallying call statement during his holidays and closed season? When has that EVER happened at any club with ANY manager? 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: That's not his record at Sheffield Wednesday though mate. Thats just a selected part of his record to try and back up your agenda/stance You've not put the whole picture in at all Bit disingenuous that really if we're honest By all means have a discussion on whether someone is the right fit or not, but doctoring stats to try and win a point is poor form I seem to remember you posting the 3 game form that had us on 4 points quite a few times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jim said: The silence from him since the points deduction is deafening. I’d have thought he would have been trying to rally everyone now but no? I’ll get slated again for thinking he’s on his way out but I can’t see any other explanation for the silence at the minute? Jim,come on,you can't/don't really expect the manager to front up and say owt do ya,it's not him that needs to say owt.besides there may be areason he caan't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, jonnyowl said: I seem to remember you posting the 3 game form that had us on 4 points quite a few times! Two wrongs don't make a right 1 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jim said: The silence from him since the points deduction is deafening. I’d have thought he would have been trying to rally everyone now but no? I’ll get slated again for thinking he’s on his way out but I can’t see any other explanation for the silence at the minute? Do you not think the club as a whole are holding their tongue until they've received the full written reasoning from the independent panel, given their lawyers chance to pick through it all, and decided whether or not to lodge an appeal? I'd expect to hear from the chairman on this matter before I'd expect to hear from the manager. Edited August 4, 2020 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's the number of points thrown away which condemns him. We'll have lean times ahead if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Why should he have a clean slate? He's had 46 games to put new ideas across, if anything he's made us worse! Because if he is to be our manager next season. Which looks the case. Then it's a new season. We shouldn't judge him on what he has done before. Different players. Different circumstances. We get Pearson in would you instantly say he got Watford relegated. No. he would get time. Monk should at least get the first 6 games before we all judge him. Edited August 4, 2020 by pazowl55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Because if he is to be our manager next season. Which looks the case. Then it's a new season. We shouldn't judge him on what he has done before. Different players. Different circumstances. We get Pearson in would you instantly say he got Watford relegated. No. he would get time. Monk should at least get the first 6 games before we all judge him. He's had 46 games and for half a season its been pathetic! I have zero confidence in this manager! He's got a worse record than Luhkay! He should be shown the door and unless there is a dramatic turn around and I mean dramatic, we are in for the same rubbish next season! Get rid, he's already proved he isn't capable! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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