Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: So now you're trying to deny Garry Monk saved a club from relegation that had a 9 point deduction because of the 'handling of the case'? Aye... ALREYT Get back to bed you lunatic That's uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, paulvcooke said: That's not true, there are plenty have managers who have managed in the Premier League Not as a percentage of all football managers Let's not be silly now Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, paulvcooke said: No he's sticking to facts, just like you are. It's just his facts don't suit your agenda. I don't HAVE an agenda Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Not as a percentage of all football managers Let's not be silly now OK then, well let's not be silly and assume that just because a manager once had a job in the Premier League he's a good manager (which you seem to be doing). Many have managed there, failed and never returned (sound familiar?). Monk has not been a Premier League manager since 2015, do you think he'll be one again anytime soon? Or manage in Europe again anytime soon? Genuine questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So now you're trying to deny Garry Monk saved a club from relegation that had a 9 point deduction because of the 'handling of the case'? Aye... ALREYT Get back to bed you lunatic No just that after they got their points deduction they didn't need any points to stay up Bolton finished 22nd on 40 points with a minus 31 goal difference So after 38 games Birmingham were safe https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47667742 The handling of the two case was completely different too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I don't HAVE an agenda You do, you are defending him at all costs, belittling people who disagree with you with slurs against their mental health. It's not a good look. As and aside, is there anyway to put you on ignore? Can do it with others, just not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: So now you're trying to deny Garry Monk saved a club from relegation that had a 9 point deduction because of the 'handling of the case'? Aye... ALREYT Get back to bed you lunatic Can you please explain how a midtable club having a points deduction which put them to lower midtable, and still had enough points to finish 12 points above the drop despite only winning 2 of the last 12 games makes "saving them from relegation" some sort of achievement? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, paulvcooke said: just because a manager once had a job in the Premier League he's a good manager Makes you wonder why managers who have managed in the Premier League have been given that opportunity because they're deemed better than other managers out there doesn't it?m That's like saying 'just because a driver has driven in Formula One doesn't mean they're a good driver' Errrr yes. Yes actually It does. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, room0035 said: The handling of the two case was completely different too. So that wipes out all history of Garry Monk saving a club from relegation that had a 9 point deduction? Amazing 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Promotions 0 Fact Playoff campaigns 0 Fact Swansea Sacked Fact Middlesbrough Sacked Fact Birmingham Sacked Fact. See I can do facts too! Anyone can do facts...here's mine...Garry Monk is our manager for the next season whether you like it or not FACT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, paulvcooke said: OK then, well let's not be silly and assume that just because a manager once had a job in the Premier League he's a good manager (which you seem to be doing). Many have managed there, failed and never returned (sound familiar?). Monk has not been a Premier League manager since 2015, do you think he'll be one again anytime soon? Or manage in Europe again anytime soon? Genuine questions. Presumably Neil also loves and defends Jordan Rhodes, his stock was high 5 years ago before plummeting as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, daveyboy66 said: Anyone can do facts...here's mine...Garry Monk is our manager for the next season whether you like it or not FACT Thats the BEST fact in this thread for many reasons Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, alanharper said: Presumably Neil also loves and defends Jordan Rhodes That's quite a leap/statement Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Makes you wonder why managers who have managed in the Premier League have been given that opportunity because they're deemed better than other managers out there doesn't it?m That's like saying 'just because a driver has driven in Formula One doesn't mean they're a good driver' Errrr yes. Yes actually It does. Do you genuinely believe that is a good analogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, paulvcooke said: Do you genuinely believe that is a good analogy? I could apply it to any elite job/role in life Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I could apply it to any elite job/role in life You don't do direct answers do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, paulvcooke said: You don't do direct answers do you? I literally just answered you You know... With the answer that you just quoted Sorry you're struggling with the concept Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Owl Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I literally just answered you Sorry you're struggling with the concept I'm out of this, you are not answering direct questions, you have made a nasty comment about someone being a lunatic, I suspect you are just doing this to generate traffic. I've asked you the same questions three times, you don't want to or can't answer them. I'll ask my questions again one last time. Monk has not been a Premier League manager since 2015, do you think he'll be one again anytime soon? Or manage in Europe again anytime soon? Genuine questions. And, is it possible to put you on ignore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Put together what rules managers out of the Wednesday job in your eyes You know Like having been sacked before etc Let's see if we can identify the best manager to replace Monk using your criteria Somebody who knows how to be successful. Like Bruce, Jokanovic or Hughton who have promotions on their CV. Or someone like Paul Cook who has had success in the lower leagues, Chesterfield Promotion, Portsmouth League Two title, Wigan League on title. I dont think the time is right for a first job for someone, I dont think we can do what Rangers did by getting Gerrard or Derby getting in Lampard a big name player looking for their first job! Your obviously not going to get a manager that hasn't been sacked, but I dont want a manager that has had no success at 4 clubs and been sacked at 3 of them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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