marconi Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Team of bottlers in don’t upset us shocker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, marconi said: Team of bottlers in don’t upset us shocker. Football fans in 'ahhh mummy why aren't I allowed to absolutely abuse our own players' shocker Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Football fans in 'ahhh mummy why aren't I allowed to absolutely abuse our own players' shocker For 10k a week, I’d let them criticise me all they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, marconi said: For 10k a week, I’d let them criticise me all they wanted. You think so, but there's a reason that celebrities suffer mental health issues, depression, high rates of suicide The reality is no amount of money you receive makes you impenetrable from criticism and critique 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 To be honest, considering the abject performances this season I think as a fan base we have been rather muted. Whether it's right or wrong as a professional footballer you have to learn to deal with negativity from fans, especially when the team you play for is under performing. Stay way from social media would be my advice if it upsets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You think so, but there's a reason that celebrities suffer mental health issues, depression, high rates of suicide The reality is no amount of money you receive makes you impenetrable from criticism and critique Fair enough, but to criticise fans for being negative after the second half of the season they served up, is a bit rich. Harris wants to thank his lucky stars, he’s not a front line NHS worker or a steelworker laid off with mouth’s to feed and mortgage to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, marconi said: Fair enough, but to criticise fans for being negative after the second half of the season they served up, is a bit rich. Harris wants to thank his lucky stars, he’s not a front line NHS worker or a steelworker laid off with mouth’s to feed and mortgage to pay. It has nothing to do with his job/role at all It's to do with direct criticism of him directly posted to him so he sees it. The lad has thankfully apologised and deleted his attack, and also accepted that he was in the wrong Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bulgaria said: Stay way from social media would be my advice if it upsets you. Or those tweeting criticism directly to the players twitter account could just.... you know.... stop it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Football fans in 'ahhh mummy why aren't I allowed to absolutely abuse our own players' shocker Big difference between criticism and abuses mate. If players and managers can't take criticism for disgraceful performances, then tough, that's their problem. IF it crosses the line and turns into personal abuse, then that Is out of order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, S36 OWL said: Big difference between criticism and abuses mate. If players and managers can't take criticism for disgraceful performances, then tough, that's their problem. IF it crosses the line and turns into personal abuse, then that Is out of order It's one thing booing a team off a pitch It's entirely another directly tweeting them, and tagging them in the personal criticism to ensure they see it whilst they're on social media Different thing totally Being criticised for your performance in the press or by fans at the match is one thing - this is another level of criticism that can cause real very serious problems (with anyone - not just footballers/celebrities) It's simply not just a case of 'manning up' Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: It's one thing booing a team off a pitch It's entirely another directly tweeting them, and tagging them in the personal criticism to ensure they see it whilst they're on social media Different thing totally Being criticised for your performance in the press or by fans at the match is one thing - this is another level of criticism that can cause real very serious problems (with anyone) As you know, I've suffered with anxiety for years, but if someone texted me and critisesed me for doing a bad job for them ( never happened yet), I wouldn't see that as abuse. I would see it as criticism of me performing badly, nothing more. If the attack became personal, that's a different kettle of fish. Whenever someone on has critisesed me over my views, that's fine, that's not abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, S36 OWL said: Big difference between criticism and abuses mate. If players and managers can't take criticism for disgraceful performances, then tough, that's their problem. IF it crosses the line and turns into personal abuse, then that Is out of order Just what I wanted to post myself. Players should be able to take criticism for poor work they did, but not the abuse. If they can't take some criticism then stay away from social medija. If you are abusing anyone, players, dogs, cats... Get back under rock you crowled beneath of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Or those tweeting criticism directly to the players twitter account could just.... you know.... stop it? Well obviously. But I don't think that's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, S36 OWL said: As you know, I've suffered with anxiety for years, but if someone texted me and critisesed me for doing a bad job for them ( never happened yet), I wouldn't see that as abuse. I would see it as criticism of me performing badly, nothing more. If the attack became personal, that's a different kettle of fish. Whenever someone on has critisesed me over my views, that's fine, that's not abuse. Imagine your phone going off every twenty minutes with criticism Every time you went online you faced it and saw it because you were tagged in it Imagine that Don't really think you're thinking this through and seeing just what an issue this really is for players Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bulgaria said: Well obviously. But I don't think that's going to happen. Sadly not I can't get my head around why people would directly tag players in their tweets though when laying into them It's something I can't fathom If anyone's reading this and does this to the players/coaches maybe you could come on and explain it to us? No judgement just curious Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Imagine your phone going off every twenty minutes with criticism Every time you went online you faced it and saw it because you were tagged in it Imagine that Don't really think you're thinking this through and seeing just what an issue this really is for players If that happened to me, which it never has, and it affected me, I would keep off social media mate. I'm thick skinned, so not much gets to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Sadly not I can't get my head around why people would directly tag players in their tweets though when laying into them It's something I can't fathom Modern society mate. Until social media disappears, which ain't gonna happen, that's how it's going to be unfortunately. It sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, S36 OWL said: If that happened to me, which it never has, and it affected me, I would keep off social media mate. I'm thick skinned, so not much gets to me It would get to you It would get to anyone It would grind you down and batter you into submission That's the whole reason I think it's done in all honesty - find a player/coach you don't like - tweet them criticism relentlessly until their confidence is shot and they play poorly, boo them off the pitch and then point to them leaving the club as the players massive failure etc I dunno - It's all odd to me But yeah - it would definitely get to you Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Fans blast the players and they’re expected to take it Players kick back at one fan and the whole world loses its shit, we pay your wages bla bla I don’t think I’d take it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chriss said: Fans blast the players and they’re expected to take it Players kick back at one fan and the whole world loses its shit, we pay your wages bla bla I don’t think I’d take it either. I wish more players would fire back in all honesty It would put a spotlight on the issue and create support for change 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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