Manwë Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: The relationship as I now see it: The club are only responsible for maintaining rental payments. HK entity responsible for ground maintenance. What happens if the club cannot maintain rental payments? Eviction or repossession? "The club are understood to have to pay the Booths just under £200,000 a year [2004] and the expensive duty to keep Millmoor intact falls on the club, not the landlords. In addition the current directors say the Booths are entitled to what might seem an extraordinary package of privileges for a family no longer in control: about 30 free tickets to every home match, with entertainment; advertising in the ground; and first call on away tickets and even FA Cup final tickets. In late 2006 the club fell behind with the rent and tried to argue in court that the original agreement undervalued the properties and that the lease was onerous. The case was struck out, the rent was paid, the agreement maintained. " (Source: The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/23/rotherham.leaguetwofootball) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: What has the revenue coming into the club got to do with the business that owns the ground? They are by all intents and purposes, completely separate entities. If the club is paying rental for the ground, it could be argued that the landlord has a responsibility to maintain the ground in a satisfactory condition. or not depending on the terms of the contract, what actually did the contract between the 2 parties state in relation to 'satisfactory condition''? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Don't suppose there's any chance of some sanity on here is there?? Even if it's a teeny weeny miniscule bit of sanity. Even a minimal amount of logical thought (bearing in mind the circumstances) would do. I agree. And that has to start with the Chairman first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: I agree. And that has to start with the Chairman first. I think he's started keeping the club afloat it's your turn now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Be grateful he's keeping the club afloat because if doesn't keep paying the bills there may not be a club Why would I be grateful for him doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, ka58 said: Why would I be grateful for him doing that? You wouldn't if you're a blunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: You wouldn't if you're a blunt Being grateful for the owner not running the club into the ground? Weird outlook. Thank you "Mr Chansiri" for not bankrupting the club - I won't question anything you do as a consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Think we need to get Cheerful Charlie's name on top of the West Stand to cover the Presto up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Mrs c knocking up 20.000 scatterer cussions as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Manwë said: Yes. Improvements will be probably replacing the Owls seated logo on the Kop with "ELEV8". It's gonna be amazing. Christ..............dont tell BigintheRob I've already ruined his matchday experience 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Hodgyowl said: Mrs c knocking up 20.000 scatterer cussions as we speak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aingarth Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: As we don't "own" the ground does this mean the owner will throw a bob or too at improving the facilities? We haven't owned the ground since MM bought the club. DC has owned the ground since he bought the club from MM. The fact that a different DC company from the club company now owns the ground makes no difference whatsoever. I don't think he will spend a penny, mainly because the basis of his wealth is actually with his family and not him personally. Having splashed something like £130m already on the club, the ground, players transfers and subsidising player wages and now buying the ground off himself, I doubt anything significant will be spent. In any case, with COVID-19 preventing any proper return to normal crowds for at least a season, why would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Aingarth said: mainly because the basis of his wealth is actually with his family and not him personally And you know that how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ChinaOwl said: The relationship as I now see it: The club are only responsible for maintaining rental payments. HK entity responsible for ground maintenance. What happens if the club cannot maintain rental payments? Eviction or repossession? Neither because Chansiri owns both entites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ChinaOwl said: What has the revenue coming into the club got to do with the business that owns the ground? They are by all intents and purposes, completely separate entities. If the club is paying rental for the ground, it could be argued that the landlord has a responsibility to maintain the ground in a satisfactory condition. The Landlord would use rental monies to borrow capital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyfoxhill owl Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Captain Scarlett said: She's already started on the new seating in the North Stand. Where have you got that photo of my seat from, its row 37 on the north stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 hours ago, ka58 said: Being grateful for the owner not running the club into the ground? Weird outlook. Thank you "Mr Chansiri" for not bankrupting the club - I won't question anything you do as a consequence. No point “questioning” if you’ve already made your mind up. No answer would suffice regardless. You’re not looking for ‘answers’ you’re looking for retribution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: No point “questioning” if you’ve already made your mind up. No answer would suffice regardless. You’re not looking for ‘answers’ you’re looking for retribution. No - I’m saying you can’t absolve him from any criticism on the basis that he hasn’t bankrupted the club. I don’t know what you’re on about regarding “retribution” that doesn’t make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Think if they made all the seats in the ground face away from the pitch that would be a major improvement on my matchday experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Can't we just get a Buddhist monk to bless it or summat...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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