Recruitment Strategy

[Dick_Turpin]

7 minutes ago, catdog1121 said:

agree I mean what are the chances that Man City missed this diamond in the rough and at 19? 

They don’t have to have “missed” him.  City are looking for top class players several cuts above the ones needed

to get us out of the Championship. How many West Brom players would get into City’s squad. None probably. 
 

However finding the potential Championship players that get released is incredibly difficult. There’s a lot of chat on here about the strategy needed is to recruit hungry young players and how it will see us take a step forward. Without some superb scouting and a big slice of

luck it could also see us take a huge step back. 
 

We need a balanced approach of youth and experience; the potential and the proven, to see us through the mess we’re in. 

[gurujuan]

Plundering other clubs academies has worked for Norwich. Most of their young talents were previously with other academies. They supplement these with relatively low cost signings, mainly from the continent. If our own academy is not yet producing, then why not look elsewhere. 

[daveyboy66]

19 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

They don’t have to have “missed” him.  City are looking for top class players several cuts above the ones needed

to get us out of the Championship. How many West Brom players would get into City’s squad. None probably. 
 

However finding the potential Championship players that get released is incredibly difficult. There’s a lot of chat on here about the strategy needed is to recruit hungry young players and how it will see us take a step forward. Without some superb scouting and a big slice of

luck it could also see us take a huge step back. 
 

We need a balanced approach of youth and experience; the potential and the proven, to see us through the mess we’re in. 

Foden would have walked into ANY Prem team apart from Liverpool  and yet he's played a handful of games this season its getting them in and giving them an opportunity without waiting for one of the older players to leave. 

[Dick_Turpin]

2 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said:

Foden would have walked into ANY Prem team apart from Liverpool  and yet he's played a handful of games this season its getting them in and giving them an opportunity without waiting for one of the older players to leave. 

 

And the Fodens of this world aren't going to Championship clubs if they don't become first team regulars. 

[scram]

1 hour ago, gurujuan said:

Plundering other clubs academies has worked for Norwich. Most of their young talents were previously with other academies. They supplement these with relatively low cost signings, mainly from the continent. If our own academy is not yet producing, then why not look elsewhere. 

 

 

Plundering other clubs academies costs money

 

I still think Norwich academy graduates are quite a bit overrated - as a team they have just proved to be one of the worst premier teams ever

 

And their best players were not their own graduates

 

There is a hierarchy in academy football and if any player shows decent ability you can bet that Chelsea, City or Utd will be in for them - at any age

 

I think we need to stop surmising that academy graduates and prospects is the way out of this tbh

 

With the current situation loads of players are out of work - there will be a knock-on effect which means that some decent players can be picked up for fees and wages way less than they may have done a year or so ago

 

Firstly we need to decide how we want to play then recruit accordingly

 

Straight out of the Sean Dyche playbook...

[pazowl55]

5 minutes ago, scram said:

 

I think we need to stop surmising that academy graduates and prospects is the way out of this tbh

 

If we were picking up the best of peoples academies or even the half decent ones, then fair enough. but we are not we are picking up and looking at the ones they dont want, not the ones that are currently doing well.

[scram]

We don't get first dibs on the best 

 

Thats how it is

 

Obviously we may get lucky on a player that isn't so rated by his parent club but goes on to be a surprise

 

But its no recruitment strategy

[keepitsteel89]

5 hours ago, Mr Farrell said:

Our strategy for 5 years has been to fund certain agents and organisations in my opinion.

Even the CIA envy our slush funds

[jonnyowl]

Need a mix of players.

 

We need to add championship quality as well as younger players to develop!

 

 

[new zealand owl]

Quite simply its about balance. Experienced pros mixed in with youth prospects from bigger clubs.

 

As a fanbase we are a little obsessed with bringing in young players now but the most important thing is getting the right characters with the right mentality in the squad.  

[Utah Owl]

55 minutes ago, keepitsteel89 said:

Even the CIA envy our slush funds

The trouble with our slush fund is that we have only signed slush and true to type it has melted away.

[catdog1121]

6 minutes ago, new zealand owl said:

Quite simply its about balance. Experienced pros mixed in with youth prospects from bigger clubs.

 

As a fanbase we are a little obsessed with bringing in young players now but the most important thing is getting the right characters with the right mentality in the squad.  

 

Problem is Monk cant handle experienced players

[james o connor]

9 hours ago, Holmowl said:

We could also soon find that signing young players on loan gets us relegated.

 

We signed some stinkers - step forward JVA and Almen, but some were gems - Bannan, Hooper, Fletcher, Iorfa. 

Hooper wasn’t a gem , he was a very expensive crock . To succeed you need quality strikers who will play all season and score more than 6 goals , like pukki or fat billy . Hooper was a massive waste of money 

[Holmowl]

1 hour ago, james o connor said:

Hooper wasn’t a gem , he was a very expensive crock . To succeed you need quality strikers who will play all season and score more than 6 goals , like pukki or fat billy . Hooper was a massive waste of money 

I half agree

 

Hooper was £3m to buy and £30kpw for a reason. Had his body been healthy enough to play 40 games per season he would have been out of our league, literally.

 

Same with Fletcher.

 

However, there is no doubt that we need a couple of strikers who may be a slight downgrade in quality, but offer a huge improvement on reliability.

[Mr Farrell]

Our strategy needs to start with foooking off any third party Portuguese influence on any future signings.

 

In addition, it then needs to free of any Chairman/son interference on player decisions.

 

While we are at it, no more final big pay days for crocks. We aren't a charity for half a season millionaires like Hooper and Fletcher.

 

Finally, it should be free of all petty emotion and pride. If we get a good offer for a player, and we can replace them cost effectively, then we sell. None of this family shiite malarkey. Likewise less of this banishing players, particularly promising young ones. Happens too many times and points to one man.

 

Has to be the starting point for any strategies.

[james o connor]

2 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

Our strategy needs to start with foooking off any third party Portuguese influence on any future signings.

 

In addition, it then needs to free of any Chairman/son interference on player decisions.

 

While we are at it, no more final big pay days for crocks. We aren't a charity for half a season millionaires like Hooper and Fletcher.

 

Finally, it should be free of all petty emotion and pride. If we get a good offer for a player, and we can replace them cost effectively, then we sell. None of this family shiite malarkey. Likewise less of this banishing players, particularly promising young ones. Happens too many times and points to one man.

 

Has to be the starting point for any strategies.

Exactly this . Used to boil my wee wee when folk on here were banging on about hooper , forestieri , lee etc ‘if only we could get them fit’. meanwhile teams like the pigs with their fit, younger, well organised squad sail past us. I know it’s not that simple , I know which way I’d rather us have gone though 

[gurujuan]

6 hours ago, scram said:

 

 

Plundering other clubs academies costs money

 

I still think Norwich academy graduates are quite a bit overrated - as a team they have just proved to be one of the worst premier teams ever

 

And their best players were not their own graduates

 

There is a hierarchy in academy football and if any player shows decent ability you can bet that Chelsea, City or Utd will be in for them - at any age

 

I think we need to stop surmising that academy graduates and prospects is the way out of this tbh

 

With the current situation loads of players are out of work - there will be a knock-on effect which means that some decent players can be picked up for fees and wages way less than they may have done a year or so ago

 

Firstly we need to decide how we want to play then recruit accordingly

 

Straight out of the Sean Dyche playbook...

Regarding the last paragraph, can we read anything into these players we’ve been linked with? The two wide players both appear to be goalscoring wide attackers, rather than wingers, and certainly not wing backs. We have also been linked with a left back. Does this suggest that Monk is looking to move away from his recently introduced system of three at the back? Perhaps it was just a horses for courses set up, as we had no available left back.

Edited August 3, 2020 by gurujuan

[new zealand owl]

4 hours ago, catdog1121 said:

 

Problem is Monk cant handle experienced players

Fair point. He needs to prove he can pretty soon 

[Nero]

49 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

Our strategy needs to start with foooking off any third party Portuguese influence on any future signings.

 

In addition, it then needs to free of any Chairman/son interference on player decisions.

 

While we are at it, no more final big pay days for crocks. We aren't a charity for half a season millionaires like Hooper and Fletcher.

 

Finally, it should be free of all petty emotion and pride. If we get a good offer for a player, and we can replace them cost effectively, then we sell. None of this family shiite malarkey. Likewise less of this banishing players, particularly promising young ones. Happens too many times and points to one man.

 

Has to be the starting point for any strategies.

Yep. true to type.

All negatives s about what we shouldn't do.

What is your actual strategy going forward then?

Type of players should we sign and where from?

Edited August 3, 2020 by Nero

[Bouncing Owl]

23 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

Regarding the last paragraph, can we read anything into these players we’ve been linked with? The two wide players both appear to be goalscoring wide attackers, rather than wingers, and certainly not wing backs. We have also been linked with a left back. Does this suggest that Monk is looking to move away from his recently introduced system of three at the back? Perhaps it was just a horses for courses set up, as we had no available left back.

This is what I think.