Blue and white Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That's the worry though mate Anyone WILL come for the money But we have our clubs future at stake next season with this -12 point deduction Absolutely agree with you, just saying as we've seen with Wolves and Newcastle you can attract genuine continental and world class quality to this league if your willing to pay. As we've experienced first hand, you can pay big money/wages for past it player with no resale value and lead to financial trouble. Edited August 1, 2020 by Blue and white 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Hi mate This isn't a Monk thread Ta The manager attracting players is totally relevant to the equation, the same way money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I don’t see what’s changed All those who were suggesting we needed a big clear out, must have been confident we could rebuild effectively. Surely in their minds, all those players would have been part of the problem, and part of the opportunity to refurbish the squad. Though I was wary of undertaking such a major rebuild, the opportunity is there to get it done. The only thing the points deficit has done, in my opinion, is to focus our minds to get the squad in place, sooner rather than later. We cannot afford a slow start, which means not waiting until the end of the window to do our business 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCityIsOurs Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 -12 won’t make a difference at all for players wanting to sign for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 The current crop of players have been found totally wanting when the chips were down. For all they knew, points on the board in the last part of the season could have been vital if the deduction had taken place now. Seen more life in a tin of alka seltzer. I wouldn’t want many of them behind me in a scrap that’s for sure. Massive clear out required and very astute recruitment by a very street wise and motivational manager. Over to you D.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheCityIsOurs said: -12 won’t make a difference at all for players wanting to sign for us I wish I could believe that Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Depends what salary we are offering. Don’t think players won’t come because we start on -12, if we offer them a big enough incentive then they will come. Look at Fletcher. Problem is it’s not these players that we want. We don’t want ‘names’ coming for a final or easy pay day. We want those that are hungry to succeed and make a name for themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: WE ARE GOING UP!!!!! On the strength of that I've just lumped on I recommend everyone else should follow Come on let's have it!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Agreed He may have potential but he's definitely NOT what's needed next season Is that the same DaCruz that the manager described as “ the sort of player we should be signing” * comment about player not manager ( I’ve stopped commenting on the manager) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Jonson Clarke-Harris from Bristol . they will sell this summer as coming into final year of contract. Good unit, good finisher and 26 years old. Doesn’t mess about on the pitch and will be a good lead striker for us. If we able to spend then this , and young loanees has to be the way forward. I just fear that even the likes of Clarke-Harris would be tempted elsewhere after last nights news. Our cloth will have to be re-cut............freebies like Kieron Freeman and Tyler Blackett who people would have previously turned their noses up at will now be the market we are dealing in. Edited August 1, 2020 by sheriwozgod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Only Lee out of that list please. Lee has been one of my favourite players of recent years, but even though the know-how and effort can still be seen he is weaker and slower than he was. He’s now too easily dispossessed. He can’t quite get to the ball. He doesn’t quite make it into those thru-balls. He loses more tackles and makes more fouls. I won’t be sorry if he gets a season, but sadly don’t think he would be missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Devonstrix said: The current crop of players have been found totally wanting when the chips were down. For all they knew, points on the board in the last part of the season could have been vital if the deduction had taken place now. Seen more life in a tin of alka seltzer. I wouldn’t want many of them behind me in a scrap that’s for sure. Massive clear out required and very astute recruitment by a very street wise and motivational manager. Over to you D.C. Thats the narrative, and yet we apparently offered new terms to Fletcher, Fox and Forestieri. Now we are considering new deals for Lee and Nuhiu? I’m really struggling to understand our thinking here. The manager has been very vocal about the need for a clear out, and a major rebuild, so had all those players accepted their new deals, who exactly would have left? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Plonk said: Is that the same DaCruz that the manager described as “ the sort of player we should be signing” * comment about player not manager ( I’ve stopped commenting on the manager) Can't see many foreign players wanting to uproot in these times to join a team that looks in as precarious position as ours. I think it'll be UK based players. Obviously not saying thats a bad thing, there are plenty of footballers to look at. I just hope we can get some of them in in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: Thats the narrative, and yet we apparently offered new terms to Fletcher, Fox and Forestieri. Now we are considering new deals for Lee and Nuhiu? I’m really struggling to understand our thinking here. The manager has been very vocal about the need for a clear out, and a major rebuild, so had all those players accepted their new deals, who exactly would have left? And exactly how much say is the manager getting in that? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) I think we have a huge job on, signing players. We've got one so that's a start, but it needs a huge rebuild and we are on - 12 already. Our saleable assets could also be tempted to look elsewhere. Big month needed and it could get very bumpy. Edited August 1, 2020 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I think Nuhiu would actually be an important signing for next season. Popular in the dressing room and a great cheerleader for the squad, always encouraging. We could need a lot of that next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: And exactly how much say is the manager getting in that? Very little I would imagine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 weeks to go... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: Very little I would imagine Yeah I fear the same Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) We need players with a strong mental attitude, winners. Certain players imo will give up before a ball has been kicked and feel sorry for themselves. I just don’t know if we are now going to be able to attract the type of players we need. We need/needed a massive squad rebuild this summer, that isn’t going to be so easy now, the only way we will attract any half decent players imo will be by over spending on wages which is the last thing we should be doing. Edited August 1, 2020 by WalthamOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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