FreshOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 10 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It’s four games It’s four games???? Its four games yes but it’s not that we have to just play four games We have to win them Win all of them Four games out of four Yep and count on the other teams to be losing four in a row to catch them We are cream crackered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 10 hours ago, camffiti said: Not the best circumstances to replace the spine of our team, with Younger, Better & Cheaper Westwood, Fox, Hutchinson, Lee, Forestierri, Fletcher ... Out of them only Fletcher has contributed consistently over last couple of seasons and even he's missed a few games. Fox had a few decent games towards end but rest were either injured, suspended or crap, some all three at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany71 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Or 46 games to get 12 points more than Rotherham, Wycombe, Coventry, Huddersfield, Luton, Barnsley, QPR. It's not impossible but we have an important 6 or 7 weeks coming up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Yep and count on the other teams to be losing four in a row to catch them We are cream crackered Why have we got to win 4 in a row ? Why have other teams got to lose 4 ? Its 46 games ,can only hope the players we will have acquired dont throw in the towel as easy as some on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, the monk said: Why have we got to win 4 in a row ? Why have other teams got to lose 4 ? Its 46 games ,can only hope the players we will have acquired dont throw in the towel as easy as some on here Because we are starting with a deficit before a balls been kicked. Say we have a bad start and collect 1pt from 4, we could be even 15-20pts adrift in the first couple months of the season Do you think this club has the mental toughness, seriously? We need to be going into every game going all out to win, and I can’t for the life of me seeing our players be up for the challenge I admire your optimism, but Christ I don’t think people realise how serious this is It was different for clubs like Birmingham who got their deduction during the season and it only knocked them down a few places We’re gonna be starting the season lost out at sea Edited August 1, 2020 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: Because we are starting with a deficit before a balls been kicked. Say we have a bad start and collect 1pt from 4, we could be even 15-20pts adrift in the first couple months of the season Do you think this club has the mental toughness, seriously? We need to be going into every game going all out to win, and I can’t for the life of me seeing our players be up for the challenge I admire your optimism, but Christ I don’t think people realise how serious this is It was different for clubs like Birmingham who got their deduction during the season and it only knocked them down a few places We’re gonna be starting the season lost out at sea We have 46 games which is better than losing points with say 23 games to go surely? We dont have to win 4 on the bounce as you said We have to get 13 points more than 3 other teams , last season was dogger and we managed 8 even with 3 first teamers jumping ship after being paid for sitting at home for 3 months As for the players having the guts ,we will have to see who we bring in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vid80 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Be reyt, I am gonna have a cheeky 20 quid bet on us getting promoted via playoffs. Should be a decent return Edited August 1, 2020 by vid80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissmess Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 11 hours ago, owls79 said: We was never going to do anything this coming season and if we’re been honest the following season as well we’ll maybe a play off push. Next season was always going to be a right off so let’s get the squad sorted get behind the team and get these points knocked off. It’s 4 games it can easily be done. People saying season over before started I would love to know what they think we was going to do. Come on let’s stay together and it will change we have just got to get on with it. I'll have whatever you are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissmess Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, vid80 said: Be reyt, I am gonna have a cheeky 20 quid bet on us getting promoted via playoffs. Should be a decent return put it in a double with Bojo to top the charts at Christmas with Agadoo Edited August 1, 2020 by swissmess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I think next season other clubs will go into administration and therefore get a 12 point deduction, this may help us. How many clubs will struggle for money., most i think other than those coming down. We have thinned the squad so any new players will come in on a sustainable wage, we have got rid of some big earners unlike a lot of other clubs in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Shetland Owl said: I think next season other clubs will go into administration and therefore get a 12 point deduction, this may help us. This is modern day football Isn't it soooooo sad how it's turned out? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, the monk said: We have 46 games which is better than losing points with say 23 games to go surely? We dont have to win 4 on the bounce as you said We have to get 13 points more than 3 other teams , last season was dogger and we managed 8 even with 3 first teamers jumping ship after being paid for sitting at home for 3 months As for the players having the guts ,we will have to see who we bring in If we didn’t have Fletcher for the first half of last season we would have been relegated, comfortably. We need one hell of a transfer window, but who on earth is gonna be up for the fight? Any half decent player will get another championship club without a 12- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Work in progress... Edited August 1, 2020 by DJMortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Just to put into perspective what we are faced with, I thought it would be useful to look at the last twenty years and see what effect a 12 point deduction would have. SEASON POINTS / POSITION WITH DEDUCTION 2000/1 53 (17th) 41 (23rd - relegated) 2001/2 50 (20th) 38 (23rd - relegated) 2002/3 46 (22nd - relegated) 34 (24th - relegated) 2003/4 53 (16th) 41 (23rd - relegated) 2004/5 72 (5th - promoted) 60 (14th) 2005/6 52 (19th) 40 (22nd - relegated) 2006/7 71 (9th) 59 (14th) 2007/8 55 (16th) 43 (23rd - relegated) 2008/9 61 (12th) 49 (21st) 2009/10 47 (22nd - relegated) 35 (23rd - relegated) 2010/1 58 (15th) 46 (21st - relegated) 2011/2 93 (2nd - promoted) 81 (4th - play offs) 2012/3 58 (18th) 46 (23rd - relegated) 2013/4 53 (16th) 41 (22nd - relegated) 2014/5 60 (13th) 48 (19th) 2015/6 74 (6th - play offs) 62 (11th) 2016/7 81 (4th - play offs) 69 (9th) 2017/8 57 (15th) 45 (19th) 2018/9 64 (12th) 52 (17th) 2019/20 56 (16th) 44 (24th - relegated) So 9 times it would have resulted in relegation when that had not previously been the case, would have nullified all 3 of our play off appearances; including one promotion, and reduced an automatic promotion to the lottery of the play offs. Edited August 1, 2020 by DJMortimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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