BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, fatzooma said: I quite liked the 3rd Division back in the day..Only we didn’t get there before through a bent chairman Sanctioning the sale of the ground and generally being bent with his accounting. If only he could be as shrewd in how He appoints managers, advisors and transfer policy? WOW indeed Holy crap,you actually took the time to post that.....................wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, fatzooma said: I quite liked the 3rd Division back in the day..Only we didn’t get there before through a bent chairman Sanctioning the sale of the ground and generally being bent with his accounting. If only he could be as shrewd in how He appoints managers, advisors and transfer policy? WOW indeed Think you need to be careful when you are making allegations that DC is "bent". Evidence would suggest that is far above his competence level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, Asio otus said: Think you need to be careful when you are making allegations that DC is "bent". Evidence would suggest that is far above his competence level. Screw that fella,always thought it best to let em hang themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, FinnishOwl said: honestly don't think that a young person, especially someone with a lawyer background, would ruin her career by making a stupid move like backdating things. Eh, it is not illegal to backdate! She knew it wasn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Focus should be on the system itself. It has caused teams to try things like this its not fit for purpose. You fiddle or die that's the problem. It cannot go on like this. Chansiri baught some crap in amongst yes but the whole thing means if you haven't been in premiership and increased your turn over your fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Eh, it is not illegal to backdate! She knew it wasn't You have a problem if you backdate and the company buying the property doesn't exist. Wasn't that the whole big thing why this was so complicated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, FinnishOwl said: You have a problem if you backdate and the company buying the property doesn't exist. Wasn't that the whole big thing why this was so complicated? Then why have the efl, the courts, hmrc not thrown the book at us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, sherlyegg said: Then why have the efl, the courts, hmrc not thrown the book at us You'd have to see the memos of the corresponding parties to tell that. Maybe not illegal, but very shady. In business, shady is mostly a no-no as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, FinnishOwl said: You'd have to see the memos of the corresponding parties to tell that. Maybe not illegal, but very shady. In business, shady is mostly a no-no as well. She was set on for her legal know how.. Cos thats what she does. At the time of the ground sale. Why would dc set her on if she was against the whole idea. In big business, shady is the norm...how to interpret grey areas is the key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Asio otus said: Yea journo's claim they know everything .Be interesting to see the transcript and reasons for their decision. 100% expect DC to appeal. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, keepitsteel89 said: getting concerned fans are going to push him over the edge tbh, if he did indeed threaten administration if we were to be docked points for this season last then its not beyond the realms of possibilities he will stop funding the club people need to see he didn't get in this position on purpose Oh, our poor chairman. We are suffering him, not the other way around. Look at where the club was when he first arrived, and look at where it is now. After a brief period of giddiness where we threatened promotion a couple of times, we have been accelerating downwards like a lorry with a faulty handbrake rolling down a hill. And it probably hasn't got to the bottom yet. Chansiri's good intentions aren't seriously in doubt it seems to me, but his competence, foresight, temperament and moderation of risk very much are. Plenty of people have contributed to where we are now but his is the ultimate responsibility and right now we have EVERY right to view him with some contempt. He has brought the name of our club into disrepute and can't even point to any kind of notable success to make a start on mitigation of that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt68owls Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Owls-Fan said: Anyone remember a team staying up after getting a large points deduction at the start of a season? L**ds started on -15 and got in to the playoffs, Bournemouth started on -17 and stayed up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, matt68owls said: L**ds started on -15 and got in to the playoffs, Bournemouth started on -17 and stayed up. Sunderland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt68owls Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: Sunderland? not that i'm aware of, they have been threatened a couple of times but ended up with a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bramhall Owl said: It's interesting that you can go into administration and screw over local businesses suppliers, staff and/or the government by not paying them and end up with a 12 point deduction. If you have an owner who pumps in money to grow a club by employing more staff, and so pay the government even more money and grow the local economy you also end up with a 12 point deduction. Rule breaking is rule breaking,consequences of such are not the issue.I dont personally think the \EFL 'rules' are actually allegedly fit for purpose myself.Why shouldnt a super rich owner,buy his way to a clubs success? Virtually all sucessful Premier League Clubs splash the cash,to stay in the Premier...just how it is(or was pre COVID)...NOW ,might need the super rich even more,if TV & gate reciepts declinee.(or even 'decline'!!) Presumably thats why the EFL have suspended FFP for the coming season? who knows.. Course the 'old school' way of having a scouting systym,finding,& coaching Academy players to be the next generation of key player's(YES United been so much better at this) & building a team capable of sustaining a push for Promotion & beyond is still (arguably) the best way forward,long term.. This 'off the shelf' rent a team methodology simply hasnt worked has it? ..at least NOT for Wednesday... Edited August 1, 2020 by parajack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 52 minutes ago, matt68owls said: L**ds started on -15 and got in to the playoffs, Bournemouth started on -17 and stayed up. You are talking about leeds who did that in lg1 right? . We struggle to get 4 wins let alone back to back wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 hours ago, parajack said: Thats what i like about Owlstalk,never miss a chance to allegedly Neg....many play off teams have a bad run,of losing match's on the way,thats how we made the Play offs first time around under Carlos wasnt it? Our 'winning run' coincided with others dropping points...it is possible.. Over a season... Course realistically Championship survival is our 'Cup Final' financially i know that,but at the other end of the scale if Monk,and the team,overachieve,a late run for the play offs is achievable. Cheers for erm - speaking my mind for me. So you want that bet or not?? Or are you clucking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said: Cheers for erm - speaking my mind for me. So you want that bet or not?? Or are you clucking? Ahhh have i hurt your feelings?..Bad Para....NAUGHTY PARA....... Edited August 1, 2020 by parajack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, parajack said: Ahhh have i hurt your feelings?..Bad Para....NAUGHTY PARA....... No offence pal, but you're a bit strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said: No offence pal, but you're a bit strange. Yeah,its been said before,all ex Para's are allegedly not quite right...There coming to take me away,haha,he he..... Edited August 1, 2020 by parajack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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