Inspector Lestrade Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: Sorry, but if you couldn’t see the player he could be then I give up - he certainly wasn’t lazy or useless in my view. The lazy tag was just something people seemed to latch onto without giving it much thought. Maybe part of the problem was the fact he was a player with Premier League potential playing in a very ordinary Championship team. If he hasn't kicked someone into Row Z, sweated cobs, ran into brick walls, been booked four times, grabbed someone round the nick they are useless and lazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I think their manager summed it up, he’s taken a long time to fully believe in himself, in both his loan spells, and early on at Fulham He said, he perhaps just needed someone to put an arm round him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themagiccap Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Almost like man management is important.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Themagiccap said: Almost like man management is important.... Assuming that he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Watched all the Villa games did you ? No, but I know 5 Villa season ticket holders who watched every game. All said he showed glimpses but was lazy and got lost in games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 He definitely was lazy. Obvious talent but used to coast through games when clearly capable of more 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, SwellOwl said: True or was it someone above him? be someone from above .... i have it on good authority that carlos and jos only signed the poor players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, torryowl said: be someone from above .... i have it on good authority that carlos and jos only signed the poor players Carlos and Jo’s didnt sign any players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I thought he was a decent player TBH. Just badly managed by Jos. We've signed some decent loan players under Chansiri's ownership. Hector and Murphy being the standout loans recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Therealrealist said: Carlos and Jo’s didnt sign any players thats not what ive been told .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Jim said: I thought he was a decent player TBH. Just badly managed by Jos. We've signed some decent loan players under Chansiri's ownership. Hector and Murphy being the standout loans recently. how did he go under bruce ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, torryowl said: how did he go under bruce ? He was injured for much of the time Bruce was in charge as Bruce was keen to play him but he wasn't available much to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve Down South said: But surely Onomah is no good? All the experts on here said he was lazy. Sometimes though, players just dont fit in, they move to another club and it works out. Look at Pukki at Norwich for this example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, torryowl said: thats not what ive been told .......... Well you’ve been told wrong then..do you also thing gray was behind the signing of bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I think during his time with us Josh was always a player who looked decent enough but maybe didn't do enough in games. He's really kicked on this season at Fulham. Great goal tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Bruce was the only ‘coach’ to choose which players he wanted ..I’m also told monk was behind the Wickham but had no input at all on da cruz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Therealrealist said: Well you’ve been told wrong then..do you also thing gray was behind the signing of bus? i wouldnt have thought so as i doubt he'd ever heard of him ......its common knowledge that the advisors signed the good players and carlos signed the crap ones ....do you not read these threads ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Why does it have to be either "He was lazy" or "Fans were wrong to ignore his obvious quality"... why can't there be some shades of grey and it be a bit of both? I swear the internet is just inundated with dweebs absolutely determined to make it "us vs them" about literally every damned thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Kopparberg said: You can get called lazy at Hillsborough for not getting forward 70 yards one second and getting back the same 70 yards within the next second, even if you’ve just tried something positive and lost it. What a load of rubbish. He was awful for us, the game that sticks out was the 3-3 draw with Preston, look at their second goal for example he could have easily prevented it. And players don't get called lazy for no reason Sheffield Wednesday fans actually acknowledge a hard working player, only players that are lazy get called lazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: Why does it have to be either "He was lazy" or "Fans were wrong to ignore his obvious quality"... why can't there be some shades of grey and it be a bit of both? I swear the internet is just inundated with dweebs absolutely determined to make it "us vs them" about literally every damned thing... it’s a place for arguments not opinions for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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