billyblack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Solanke and Ibe are not going to tear this division a new one. Solanke might be ok, Ibe won't be. Howe is so overrated it's crazy. How is he over rated? Id love an over rated manager like that at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: How is he over rated? Id love an over rated manager like that at our club. Because he has had a lot of money to spend at Bournemouth and achieved very little, he had the sole aim of staying in the PL and got them relegated. Bearing in mind people suggest this guy for the likes of the Arsenal and England job, he doesn't deserve that, therefore he is overrated. Edited July 27, 2020 by Ellis Rimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 With parachute payments relegated clubs receive they should all be challenging for top 6 if not top 2 positions. As well know some clubs still struggle. Sunderland Wigan Middlesbrough Stoke Huddersfield and many more have found it tough. Out of clubs coming down my money would be on Norwich to struggle, play some lovely football but might struggle for goals unless they invest heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Without Ake Bournemouth's defence is almost as bad as ours... I'm joking of course but it's pretty horrendous. And they're attackers have been shocking without Fraser (and even with him given he has been looking elsewhere) I'm not sure they have got the fight for the championship any of them let alone without their star players I do have a soft spot for Howe but I'm not sure Bournemouth should be tol frightening to anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said: Without Ake Bournemouth's defence is almost as bad as ours... I'm joking of course but it's pretty horrendous. And they're attackers have been shocking without Fraser (and even with him given he has been looking elsewhere) I'm not sure they have got the fight for the championship any of them let alone without their star players I do have a soft spot for Howe but I'm not sure Bournemouth should be tol frightening to anyone They are not gearing up for another campaign in the premier league though are they. They are preparing for the championship where the average team has a Horrendous defence and a shocking attack. They will rally for Howe. Not sure about anyone else though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The league will be as strong as it has been for the last few years, if not stronger. Never understand people when they say it’s a poor league this year, which I’ve heard for the last few years now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Because he has had a lot of money to spend at Bournemouth and achieved very little, he had the sole aim of staying in the PL and got them relegated. Bearing in mind people suggest this guy for the likes of the Arsenal and England job, he doesn't deserve that, therefore he is overrated. Been a manager 11 years, still only 42. Manager of the decade Longest active serving premier league manager when wenger was sacked. Won 3 promotions (1 when the club had a transfer embargo for the whole season), most manager wont have 3 promotions on their CV when they are 70. He will be England manager one day and i wont be surprised if he ends up at Tottenham when Mourinho has finished boring everyone to death. Clearly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: Been a manager 11 years, still only 42. Manager of the decade Longest active serving premier league manager when wenger was sacked. Won 3 promotions (1 when the club had a transfer embargo for the whole season), most manager wont have 3 promotions on their CV when they are 70. He will be England manager one day and i wont be surprised if he ends up at Tottenham when Mourinho has finished boring everyone to death. Clearly overrated. You have not actually said anything very impressive People like him because his face fits, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: You have not actually said anything very impressive People like him because his face fits, that is all. Right you are Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, billyblack said: Right you are Idiot You're arguing a bloke that got a pretty decent team relegated is good enough for a top team mate. Read what you're writing. He messed up. They don't even play strong sides in the FA cup so they only have to concentrate on the PL. It's pathetic. He spent 20m on Sonlanke. 15m on Ibe. They're pathetic signings. Their clear flaw was their defence and he couldn't sort it out-thats bad management. His net spend is 133m and they have ended up in the championship, and with a straight face you're telling me he is a top manager. Give me strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 There were only 4 decent teams in the division this season, so if Fulham or Brentford win the play offs there'll still only be 4 decent teams in the league next season as well (unless one of the bang average sides that finished 5th-12th or one of the pisspoor sides below that have an exceptionally wise or lucky transfer window). You can never tell whether newly relegated teams are going to do a Newcastle or a Huddersfield, but on paper all 3 are comfortably better than the rest of the Championship. Depends on which players they keep and how they invest their failure payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxing_day Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 In the last 10 years 30 sides have been relegated only 5 have gone straight back up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: You're arguing a bloke that got a pretty decent team relegated is good enough for a top team mate. Read what you're writing. He messed up. They don't even play strong sides in the FA cup so they only have to concentrate on the PL. It's pathetic. He spent 20m on Sonlanke. 15m on Ibe. They're pathetic signings. Their clear flaw was their defence and he couldn't sort it out-thats bad management. His net spend is 133m and they have ended up in the championship, and with a straight face you're telling me he is a top manager. Give me strength Thats right. He is. Enough of this nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, boxing_day said: In the last 10 years 30 sides have been relegated only 5 have gone straight back up. is it that many? I thought it was one. Was it Burnley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, billyblack said: is it that many? I thought it was one. Was it Burnley? Newcastle did it twice. Fulham or Cardiff could still do it this season. I haven't checked, but even if only 5 went straight back up a fair few have got back within 2-3 years. Norwich and Villa did it last year in the final year of their parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 All I know it regardless of other teams Wednesday will still be near the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxing_day Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, billyblack said: is it that many? I thought it was one. Was it Burnley? Apparently so, can’t remember most of them now though: West Ham 10/11 QPR 12/13 Norwich 13/14 Burnley 14/15 Newcastle United 15/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxing_day Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, alanharper said: Newcastle did it twice. Fulham or Cardiff could still do it this season. I haven't checked, but even if only 5 went straight back up a fair few have got back within 2-3 years. Norwich and Villa did it last year in the final year of their parachute payments. I bet there is absolutely loads within the 3 year parachute period. First season though it’s pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, james o connor said: All I know it regardless of other teams Wednesday will still be near the bottom Yes, even without any points deduction to contend with, I would be very surprised if we didn’t finish in the bottom half next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birstall Owl Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Bournemouh will lose a few but you can see them getting good loans in like Fulham, plus Harry Arter is their player Norwich will keep a lot of their squad, probaly lose a few like Lewis, Aarons, Buendia, Cantwell but didn't spend much and can go again Watford will lose a few but you can guarantee loans/freebies from their other clubs in Spain & Italy will make them good. Rest of the division scratching around hoping they get lucky with recruitment and get into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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