Plonk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Jesus. So now now the justification for keeping him is he kept us and Birmingham up. And that’s a reason to let him rebuild? Look at what a good job he made of that at borough. £50m to put a relegation side together. What’s he going to do here with no money and a points deduction. to be fair he has got a 100 pc record of not getting relegated so maybe we’ve got the right man after all. Edited July 26, 2020 by Plonk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, DSandersonOWL said: Beware of the pies! Too many make you vulnerable to the virus, even a certain stupid slob has worked this out! Point is that we are, despite Chansiri, capable of attracting a proper manager: Carlos even tho he turned into a clown and Bruce however many months he stayed. We do not know who is available, well I certainly do not, nor who is going to become available in coming weeks. Europe is our catchment area! Any proper manager would be better. Monk's record is not defensible, he has unfortunately proved himself to be incompetent over many months... Its the PLAYERS record,post Xmas mate ,that isnt defensible......Same Players who had us third,before Xmas.Its whats happened on the pitch & in the (allegedly) the dressing room,that has us in this situation.That & allegedly failing to comply with EFL rules. Monk(nor ANY Manager) doesnt coach Players to make basic errors on the field,nor to give away needless penaltys,or easy goal scoring chances.Nor does he coach them to switch off,and not play to 90 minutes and extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 12 hours ago, parajack said: Cowleys are unproven at this level,& Huddersfield voted with their wallet...Pearson has said many times he doesnt want to manage in the City he lives...Pointless dreaming..I would love to have Nigel Pearson,but IF Monk leaves,whomever follows will be able to rebuild on the caretaker job he has done.Monks results have kept us in the Championship(ignored now) Only EFL can relegate us...(and who knows what they will do?) Any proper manager would be better than Monk as is shown by his miserable record over many months. Pearson and Cowley are examples of proper managers already available, more will become available, not just in GB but across Europe. On this year's form Monk would achieve relegation from any division we start next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, DSandersonOWL said: Pearson and Cowley are examples of proper managers already available They're both been sacked Apparently according to the Monk haters that rules them out from being SWFC manager Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, parajack said: Its the PLAYERS record,post Xmas mate ,that isnt defensible......Same Players who had us third,before Xmas.Its whats happened on the pitch & in the (allegedly) the dressing room,that has us in this situation.That & allegedly failing to comply with EFL rules. Monk(nor ANY Manager) doesnt coach Players to make basic errors on the field,nor to give away needless penaltys,or easy goal scoring chances.Nor does he coach them to switch off,and not play to 90 minutes and extra time. Manager needs to take ultimate responsible for overall team poor performance over month after month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: They're both been sacked Apparently according to the Monk haters that rules them out from being SWFC manager Do not have to hate Monk to not want him any longer as a manager. Just look at his record this year which is his responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Plonk said: Jesus. So now now the justification for keeping him is he kept us and Birmingham up. And that’s a reason to let him rebuild? Look at what a good job he made of that at borough. £50m to put a relegation side together. What’s he going to do here with no money and a points deduction. to be fair he has got a 100 pc record of not getting relegated so maybe we’ve got the right man after all. You slept through this Season? no one told you about a points deduction (potentially) next?....Players refusing to re sign?..COVID 19 lock downs?.....A relegation battle with these as a reality from Game 1, with only 25% match day income is how our season is going to be.Match's played in(initially) EMPTY Stadiums,than sparcely filled. Need a Manager that has experience of such,You maybe expecting a push for the Play offs?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, DSandersonOWL said: Do not have to hate Monk to not want him any longer as a manager. Just look at his record this year which is his responsibility. Im just pointing out the rules/criteria set by those who want Monk gone If you’ve been sacked at your last clubs you can’t have the job here apparently 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 25/07/2020 at 09:11, Kew Owl said: The longest serving manager across the whole of the 4 divisions is Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe. Remind me, someone please, did they have a successful season ? And what about the seasons before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, parajack said: You slept through this Season? no one told you about a points deduction (potentially) next?....Players refusing to re sign?..COVID 19 lock downs?.....A relegation battle with these as a reality from Game 1, with only 25% match day income is how our season is going to be.Match's played in(initially) EMPTY Stadiums,than sparcely filled. Need a Manager that has experience of such,You maybe expecting a push for the Play offs?.... Need a manager who can build Just now, @owlstalk said: Im just pointing out the rules/criteria set by those who want Monk gone If you’ve been sacked at your last clubs you can’t have the job here apparently It is obvious that most experienced managers will have been sacked to be available. Sackings of Pearson and Cowley both controversial and do not rule them out of future posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, DSandersonOWL said: Any proper manager would be better than Monk as is shown by his miserable record over many months. Pearson and Cowley are examples of proper managers already available, more will become available, not just in GB but across Europe. On this year's form Monk would achieve relegation from any division we start next season. Pearson has ruled himself out of managing in his home City MANY times,& the Cowleys have been let go by Huddersfield...& have stated they are taking time out..How are they 'available'? A relegation battle is on the cards for whomever Managers next season,& the Cowleys(as an example) would probably as young ambitious Managers,not want a relegation on the their CVs....after leaving Huddersfield.(remember Kenny Jacket at Rotherham?) It IS however ,football,and who knows?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, DSandersonOWL said: It is obvious that most experienced managers will have been sacked to be available. Sackings of Pearson and Cowley both controversial and do not rule them out of future posts. Nope sorry Apparently if you are sacked at a previous club it means you are rubbish so can’t be Wednesday manager Them’s the rules set by the fans hounding Monk out 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, parajack said: Again,Monk kept Birmingham up,(after a points deduction)Kept Wednesday in the Championship(already forgotten)...and was the most successful Leeds Manager in the last 10 Years,prior to the present incumbent.(and he did ok at the Swans).. There are plenty of Managers out there,in my view 'worse' than Monk....In our current situation,with a potential pints(or even 'points) deduction...pending,in truth,he is probably the most experienced Manager around in terms of dealing with such. I think the reality of season 20/21 will be a potential immediate relegation battle,underpinned by playing in front of 25% capacity crowds,(from October,EMPTY Stadia before than )with the threat of a potential further Covid outbreak(and lockdown) at somepoint in the Season. Matchday income will thus be reduced by 75% for the immediate future,so our income from the Championship,& TV money, is a MUST have.We simply must SURVIVE.... You’re saying we’re going to be in a relegation battle which I happen to agree with and you would stick with a manager who’s results/performances for over most the season would’ve seen us relegated most seasons? And let’s face it anyone thinking this squad is going to be massively different next season from this is living in cloud cuckoo land. As we’ve already seen he can’t get a tune from these players. People say he’s one of the unluckiest managers here, I would say the opposite? Anyone else with his record would’ve been relieved of their duties by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jim said: You’re saying we’re going to be in a relegation battle which I happen to agree with and you would stick with a manager who’s results/performances for over most the season would’ve seen us relegated most seasons? And let’s face it anyone thinking this squad is going to be massively different next season from this is living in cloud cuckoo land. As we’ve already seen he can’t get a tune from these players. People say he’s one of the unluckiest managers here, I would say the opposite? Anyone else with his record would’ve been relieved of their duties by now? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jim said: You’re saying we’re going to be in a relegation battle which I happen to agree with and you would stick with a manager who’s results/performances for over most the season would’ve seen us relegated most seasons? And let’s face it anyone thinking this squad is going to be massively different next season from this is living in cloud cuckoo land. As we’ve already seen he can’t get a tune from these players. People say he’s one of the unluckiest managers here, I would say the opposite? Anyone else with his record would’ve been relieved of their duties by now? I'd say the opposite with regards to this squad being massively different to the next,not cloud cuckoo land at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dagmeister's Shadow said: Let's wait and see. I reckon there'll be plenty of incomings. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William 1867 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 What worries me mostly regarding Garry Monk as Manager/coach, what players has benefitted from his coaching. Not one player has improved during his time here. Most players seem to have gone further backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, William 1867 said: What worries me mostly regarding Garry Monk as Manager/coach, what players has benefitted from his coaching. Not one player has improved during his time here. Most players seem to have gone further backwards. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: I'd say the opposite with regards to this squad being massively different to the next,not cloud cuckoo land at all. I would be very surprised if we saw many changes before the first ball is kicked next season. If the last few summers are anything to go by we won’t be allowed to recruit until the last few days of the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Touche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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