BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, the third man said: Not if they look at it with common sense and logic, but there is the problem Who is the they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Devonstrix said: Not sure about that Barmy. I thought Monk would be sacked if we were staying in the Championship. For me, the reason he is still here is because DC doesn’t know what league we are in next season. If we are in L1 he will probably give him a chance. If we stay in the Championship, he will be gone - he has to be. Why would you keep a bad manager because we are in league 1 but not in the championship, a bad manager is a bad manager Apart from which, we know what league we wil be in next season already, the same league as this season Edited July 30, 2020 by the third man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Very interesting thought from Catdog1121 in that Monk may only have half a season in him before people realise that he is the Emperor's Clothes. This would explain things going wrong after a time at Swansea, the "Leed. Leeds are falling apart" collapse and the half season at Boro where he fell out with everybody and was fired by Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I think Monk is probably not a good manager - certainly not at Championship level. I just feel that if we were to go down, DC would feel that he’s not really had a chance to form his own squad and would probably give him until Christmas. If we stay up, I think DC won’t take the chance, particularly if we have to start with a deduction. Do I really think we might be going down? I wouldn’t bet either way on the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Devonstrix said: I think Monk is probably not a good manager - certainly not at Championship level. I just feel that if we were to go down, DC would feel that he’s not really had a chance to form his own squad and would probably give him until Christmas. If we stay up, I think DC won’t take the chance, particularly if we have to start with a deduction. Do I really think we might be going down? I wouldn’t bet either way on the outcome. DC if anything is too loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 21 hours ago, LondonOwl313 said: Imagine if Monk's last 23 games had been his first 23 games and we were cut adrift at the bottom of the table staring relegation in the face. The club would have to make a change to try and get a bounce going given they'd want to stay up. This..... If we carry on in the same vein as the rest of 2020 for the first half of next season and gain only 17 points, we would need a miracle to stay up. The thing is can we see anything improving. On last seasons restart many on here were saying the break will have done us good. Monk will have had more time to sort things, put his ideas into place, bed his January signings in properly etc. Instead since the restart it was just more of the same. OK two decent away wins but no wins in 5 home matches and 8 points from 9 games. Even if we don't get a points reduction from the EFL, IMO going into next season with Monk in charge would be like starting with a -21 point handicap anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 If our season was reversed. As discussed so we had a crap first half but a good second. I would be thinking ok he looks like he’s turning it around. Give him a bit more time. That it started well and went down hill ( which seems to be a pattern) leaves me worried that we are heading in the wrong direction and I think our chairman has a history of allowing such slides to continue too long. Both Carlos and Jo’s should have been sacked earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Plonk said: Both Carlos and Jo’s should have been sacked earlier. How much earlier for Jos....Oct 18th we were in a play off spot 2 months later he was sacked ....very harsh to sack someone for having a poor month . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: This..... If we carry on in the same vein as the rest of 2020 for the first half of next season and gain only 17 points, we would need a miracle to stay up. The thing is can we see anything improving. On last seasons restart many on here were saying the break will have done us good. Monk will have had more time to sort things, put his ideas into place, bed his January signings in properly etc. Instead since the restart it was just more of the same. OK two decent away wins but no wins in 5 home matches and 8 points from 9 games. Even if we don't get a points reduction from the EFL, IMO going into next season with Monk in charge would be like starting with a -21 point handicap anyway. I tend to agree that starting in League One with a zero points deduction DC may just feel that Monk should stay on. But in the Championship with a points deduction plus Monk's dreadful managment and results we would be sunk by November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Owls Loyal said: I tend to agree that starting in League One with a zero points deduction DC may just feel that Monk should stay on. But in the Championship with a points deduction plus Monk's dreadful managment and results we would be sunk by November. We will starting the championship next season, with or without a points deduction, so lets give ourselves the best chance we can and get rid of Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, the third man said: We will starting the championship next season, with or without a points deduction, so lets give ourselves the best chance we can and get rid of Monk Zzzzzzzzzzzzz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: Does anybody really, I mean really believe we'll be in League One next season ? Season after, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 29/07/2020 at 10:41, bladeshater said: I know a fair few who wouldn't go on this forum still back him remember posters on here do not even represent 1% of our fanbase And there's only about 1% of posters on here who could find their way to Hillsborough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubled123456 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: Season after, yeah With Monk in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyfoxhill owl Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Can I be in the 1% who can find my way to Hillsborough, I think I know where it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Anyway, back to the subject of Paul Cook - he's resigned from Wigan. Bristol City bound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I’d definitely have him but how bad would Chansiri look sacking Monk now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 DC: “Hey Paul, ya know that deduction you’ve just had that puts relegation on your CV, wanna come to Wednesday and experience that all over again?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, BIG D said: I’d definitely have him but how bad would Chansiri look sacking Monk now? he can’t look much worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Quote Looking at recent stats from wikki his win rate over last three seasons is around 45%. Could he repeat here?, if so we could accommodate the 12pt deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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