ashley8 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Monk mot going to shy away from the 'negativity' it's the 'reality ' we need to see. Sack him no just let his contract run out. Failure with nothing to show improvement would come. There is nothing to debate, he was and is the wrong person. End of. Can we please stop backing a failure and get someone somebody doesn't want to loose for a change. Spend money on competition but get the right person. Other clubs have! Leeds and Piggies have ffs come on people we need to end this season and have a clean sweep. New manager and backroom staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, ashley8 said: Monk mot going to shy away from the 'negativity' it's the 'reality ' we need to see. Sack him no just let his contract run out. Failure with nothing to show improvement would come. There is nothing to debate, he was and is the wrong person. End of. Can we please stop backing a failure and get someone somebody doesn't want to loose for a change. Spend money on competition but get the right person. Other clubs have! Leeds and Piggies have ffs come on people we need to end this season and have a clean sweep. New manager and backroom staff Good luck with letting his contract run out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's early days though mate I'm expecting the Monk fans to be on soon to back him You using your multiple log ins again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 hours ago, StudentOwl said: You've had since the restart to reconnect with fans Garry. You haven't done it. I would have settled for far less than top-6 form since the restart... heck I would have settled for mid-table mediocrity form... provided we could see signs of good coaching, good gameplan and good energy from the players. That would have at least given me a reason to get behind you. You couldn't even manage that, and that's why I... and it seems almost every other fan of sane mind... are out. Please move on... I hope you have a better time of it at your next club. What's the form table look like since we came back after lockdown??? I'm sure Neil will let us know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: What's the form table look like since we came back after lockdown??? I'm sure Neil will let us know I'm busy - I don't have time to be pulling up form tables n that right now mate Let's just forget form tables and look instead at errr... something else? 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternlad Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I could tolerate Monk as a manager if I thought he was a master tactician or great coach but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t appear to have a redeeming feature. Basically, I don’t trust him to do a good job, to motivate the players or to have a decent rapport with the press and the supporters. We aren’t going to be an attractive club for new players for a while, and in my opinion, we need a manager who will attract players to the club, something I don’t think Mr Monk is capable of. This season would have been a lot different if Bruce and his team had stayed, we know it and I think deep down Mr Monk knows he has made a lot of mistakes probably beginning with what ever went off around Christmas time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 You’ve got to be a good or indeed lucky manager to drop the likes of Hutchinson and Westwood, and get results with a squad like ours. Like Jos, he wasn’t good enough. Principles are very expensive and it cost Jos his job, and Monk might go the same way. The only thing that might save him is if DC is pulling the strings on certain decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlerIT Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, M Royds said: How can a manager take away the spine of the team, create an atmosphere of Suspicion amongst the dressing room and supporters, set up a team that loses, and loses heavily with a team of fairly decent players, and still think he has a future at Sheffield Wednesday. On your bike. Best summary so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 For any/all Owlstalk members who are logged in and want to escape this nightmare check out the dressing room section which has everything in it today from Jesus and the Egyptian Pyramids, to Jim Davidson's racist rant on YouTube, the Cleethorpes Road Train, Mars in 4k, chicken nuggets, the Owlstalk Joke thread, and Sally Cinnamon's heartbreak thread where he tells us how he's been heavily jilted by a Tinder date, crushing his hopes, dreams and breaking his heart.. It's all happening right now in the dressing room section... https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/forum/4-dressing-room/ 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: For any/all Owlstalk members who are logged in and want to escape this nightmare check out the dressing room section which has everything in it today from Jesus and the Egyptian Pyramids, to Jim Davidson's racist rant on YouTube, the Cleethorpes Road Train, Mars in 4k, chicken nuggets, the Owlstalk Joke thread, and Sally Cinnamon's heartbreak thread where he tells us how he's been heavily jilted by a Tinder date, crushing his hopes, dreams and breaking his heart.. It's all happening right now in the dressing room section... https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/forum/4-dressing-room/ + Indian restaurants in Whitby..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, M Royds said: How can a manager take away the spine of the team, create an atmosphere of Suspicion amongst the dressing room and supporters, set up a team that loses, and loses heavily with a team of fairly decent players, and still think he has a future at Sheffield Wednesday. On your bike. This says it all in three lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 there is a bus leaves at 7-30 AM in the morning , please reconnect with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ian said: Good luck with letting his contract run out I thought he had a rolling 1 year contract that should be about to run out if it went until now. BUT if it goes to when he started then SACK HIM IMMEDIATELY!!! Just to clarify...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: For any/all Owlstalk members who are logged in and want to escape this nightmare check out the dressing room section which has everything in it today from Jesus and the Egyptian Pyramids, to Jim Davidson's racist rant on YouTube, the Cleethorpes Road Train, Mars in 4k, chicken nuggets, the Owlstalk Joke thread, and Sally Cinnamon's heartbreak thread where he tells us how he's been heavily jilted by a Tinder date, crushing his hopes, dreams and breaking his heart.. It's all happening right now in the dressing room section... https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/forum/4-dressing-room/ I'll give it a miss thanks , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, ashley8 said: I thought he had a rolling 1 year contract that should be about to run out if it went until now. BUT if it goes to when he started then SACK HIM IMMEDIATELY!!! Just to clarify...... The clue is in the word 'rolling'... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 This 'rolling' contract business. Surely we have to renew it at the end of the first 12 months - but only if we want to. If we don't, then that's the end of the contract and Monk goes. Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Theboylangers said: This 'rolling' contract business. Surely we have to renew it at the end of the first 12 months - but only if we want to. If we don't, then that's the end of the contract and Monk goes. Or am I missing something? What you're describing seems to be a more conventional fixed term kind of contract, rather than a 'rolling' one. They can take many forms, but in this case I would assume it means the manager permanently has a year remaining on his deal. It protects the club from him running it down and clearing off without notice or compensation and protects the individual by ensuring any termination would come with a year's payoff built in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Theboylangers said: This 'rolling' contract business. Surely we have to renew it at the end of the first 12 months - but only if we want to. If we don't, then that's the end of the contract and Monk goes. Or am I missing something? You are missing something For those struggling with the term heres what happens Monk is given a contract that expires in 1 year.....and always does......so currently it expires on 23rd July 2021.....tomorrow it will expire on 24th July 2021.......on 18th August this year it will expire on 18th August 2021 In effect its like he's got a 'normal' job with a 12 month notice period If we ever want to get rid we have to pay him 12 months salary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, vulva said: You’ve got to be a good or indeed lucky manager to drop the likes of Hutchinson and Westwood, and get results with a squad like ours. Like Jos, he wasn’t good enough. Principles are very expensive and it cost Jos his job, and Monk might go the same way. The only thing that might save him is if DC is pulling the strings on certain decisions. I suspect the last line might have a strong element of truth in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecap Owl Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) We can go for a walk... or you can take this call from Gary.... Edited July 23, 2020 by Whitecap Owl missed caption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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