RigBon Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) They seem to think that we will not be relegated, as they have settle bets for us to go down as losers, and lays of us to go down as winners. i was curious about whether points deductions are excluded from the market, but nope: Quote Relegation 2019/20 - Rules Event Start Time 03 August 2019, 20:00 3 to be placed Which teams will be relegated this season? If a team is relegated from a league because, at the end of a season, it has finished within the relegation positions which are relevant to that league (i.e. usually any of the bottom three league positions), bets on that team to be relegated will be settled as winning bets. If a team is otherwise disqualified, thrown out or removed from a league (i.e. in circumstances other than those where it has finished the season within the relevant relegation positions): (i) if such team is disqualified, thrown out or removed from the league before the relevant season has started, all bets on the affected market will be void (and a new market will subsequently be loaded) and (ii) if such team is disqualified, thrown out or removed from the league after the relevant season has started (or a determination is made by the applicable governing body, during the season, that the team will be thrown out or removed from the league following the season’s conclusion), all bets on the affected team will be void. For the avoidance of doubt, if a points deduction is imposed on a team such that it finishes the season within the relegation places which are relevant to the applicable league, bets on that team to be relegated will be settled as winning bets. Edited July 18, 2020 by RigBon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 That literally has no effect on what to predict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Seems a bit odd because if we do get a deduction and drop then they will have to revisit and pay out assuming there’s not a time cut off like the table on the last day of the season. Nobody really knows do they.. if it was known then surely it would be announced so that everyone knows where they are on the final day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Phew... finally we can all relax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigBon Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, flo said: That literally has no effect on what to predict Well, given that they have not yet settled bets on Wigan (who are above us on points), I think it is very interesting indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, RigBon said: They seem to think that we will not be relegated, as they have settle bets for us to go down as losers, and lays of us to go down as winners. i was curious about whether points deductions are excluded from the market, but nope: Sorry, it's late and I have been drinking, but I don't understand what you are saying. Would you mind explaining it again..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, RigBon said: They seem to think that we will not be relegated, as they have settle bets for us to go down as losers, and lays of us to go down as winners. i was curious about whether points deductions are excluded from the market, but nope: That is a strange move unless they know something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigBon Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, TaxiMark said: That is a strange move unless they know something. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigBon Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: Sorry, it's late and I have been drinking, but I don't understand what you are saying. Would you mind explaining it again..? People who bet FOR us to be relegated have lost their bets. People who bet AGAINST us being relegated (i.e. to stay up) have won their bets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Mine on 365 is still showing unsettled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I don't think we'll go down, and never have. But that's not the point, is it? I mean, when you consider the financial outlay and the burden it has put on the fans' pockets. It's an absolute disgrace, and Captain Chaos has got some serious questions to answer whatever the outcome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B_SWFC Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, RigBon said: Well, given that they have not yet settled bets on Wigan (who are above us on points), I think it is very interesting indeed. What? But Wigan do have a points deduction coming... . Edited July 19, 2020 by Chris_B_SWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigBon Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chris_B_SWFC said: What? But Wigan do have a points deduction coming... . That's pretty-much my point. They have not yet settled Wigan bets, because they know that they have a points deduction pending. But they HAVE settled bets on us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsar Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, RigBon said: That's pretty-much my point. They have not yet settled Wigan bets, because they know that they have a points deduction pending. But they HAVE settled bets on us... I have never been a betting man and don't fully understand how people pay their hard earned money on chance least of all because i don't understand the process, odds and all that. But am i to get my hopes up with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, RigBon said: They seem to think that we will not be relegated, as they have settle bets for us to go down as losers, and lays of us to go down as winners. i was curious about whether points deductions are excluded from the market, but nope: ... Edited July 19, 2020 by slinger208b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsar Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, slinger208b said: It doesn’t mean they think we won’t be, it means they don’t care if we are are due to a points deduction from a betting perspective and that they will pay out according to finishing positions achieved by points from matches played... Spoilsport! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pulsar said: Spoilsport! My angle is incorrect, just woke up and misread the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, slinger208b said: It doesn’t mean they think we won’t be, it means they don’t care if we are are due to a points deduction from a betting perspective and that they will pay out according to finishing positions achieved by points from matches played... Must be different rules applied to the alleged massive bet placed on Wigan to go down then. If your theory is correct, what would have been the point of the bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dizzys Dad said: Must be different rules applied to the alleged massive bet placed on Wigan to go down then. If your theory is correct, what would have been the point of the bet. My angle is incorrect, just woke up and misread the post... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, slinger208b said: My angle is incorrect, just woke up and misread the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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