FreshOwl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, camffiti said: I remember when we had 10 sh*t players and Brunt ... Brunt was the scapegoat when we lost Once Bannan has joined the bombsquad, he won't be heading to League1 with us Give over. Bannan isn’t in the same league as brunt, Antonio, Sibon that awful pass in Fulham’s box just then proves my point 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Same thing happened with Sibon FFS he was a mercenary pure and simple and played when he wanted which wasn’t very often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Given the verdicts so far, it's hard to believe how many think sacking Monk will sort our problems. Well the squad will need filling out extensively. So one assumes there will be quite a few incomings even if they will all be frees/ cheapies/ loans. Personally I dont want Monk making those signings given his past record in the transfer market. I don't think sacking him will sort all our problems. But it may mean we do better business with someone else in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, camffiti said: I remember when we had 10 sh*t players and Brunt ... Brunt was the scapegoat when we lost Once Bannan has joined the bombsquad, he won't be heading to League1 with us Yes its wierd how the best players often attract the most criticism. I guess it's because people have high expectations of them and judge them more harshly as a consequence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The only players I would keep are: Palmer 32 minutes ago, Highbury Owl said: Bannan is average. and as much as many wont like it....over the hill as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, KivoOwl said: Fit each player into the following categories. Contracted players for next season only, not including youngsters. In my opinion, we have seven players who I'd suggest are competent at this level. - A top 6 Championship player Barry Bannan Dominic Iorfa (potentially) Keiren Westwood - An average Championship player Kieran Lee (when fit) Kadeem Harris Julian Borner Adam Reach (borderline) - A lower end Championship player Liam Palmer Tom Lees Atdhe Nuhiu Massimo Luongo - Not good enough for the Championship Joost van Aken Jordan Rhodes Joey Pelupessy Moses Odubajo Cameron Dawson Joe Wildsmith Paul Jones Surely Paul Jones hasn't got a contract for next season and you've missed Penney out. I'd say Lees is mid-table with the right players around him and Moses and Wildsmith are good enough for Championship squads but not regulars. Luongo is a mid-table player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 And a vanarama manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Tôss Edited July 18, 2020 by unkastav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Dícks, pussíes, and arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Squad appraisal. Where do you see yourselves in five years time? trolleys Tesco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: Well the squad will need filling out extensively. So one assumes there will be quite a few incomings even if they will all be frees/ cheapies/ loans. Personally I dont want Monk making those signings given his past record in the transfer market. I don't think sacking him will sort all our problems. But it may mean we do better business with someone else in charge. Is Monk's past record really that bad? He's signed some decent players for the clubs he's managed, in the likes of Sigurdsson, Naughton, Fernández, Cork, Fabianski, Ayew, Roofe, Bridcutt, Ayling, Hernández, Bartley, Jansson, Assombalonga, Braithwaite, Fletcher etc... I think the only time many of his signings have really been called into question was at Middlesbrough, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Is Monk's past record really that bad? He's signed some decent players for the clubs he's managed, in the likes of Sigurdsson, Naughton, Fernández, Cork, Fabianski, Ayew, Roofe, Bridcutt, Ayling, Hernández, Bartley, Jansson, Assombalonga, Braithwaite, Fletcher etc... I think the only time many of his signings have really been called into question was at Middlesbrough, isn't it? Assombalonga and Braithwaite were terrible signings but fair point there are some decent players amongst those. Perhaps not quite as bad as I thought then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: Assombalonga and Braithwaite were terrible signings but fair point there are some decent players amongst those. Perhaps not quite as bad as I thought then. Assombalonga has lost something since his horror injury, but he's still a decent striker at this level. Scoring at least 15 goals in each of his first two seasons at Boro has to be considered a decent return, doesn't it? I suppose the issue is the £15m fee, but it's up to the chairman to sort that side of it. Braithwaite must have something about him to have attracted the interest of Barcelona. Edited July 18, 2020 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Dícks, pussíes, and arseholes. Basically an economy sausage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Given the verdicts so far, it's hard to believe how many think sacking Monk will sort our problems. It won’t but it’s a start. If this had been done in lockdown (I wanted it done before) then even Bullen would have been able to get more out of these than Monk. At least that would have kept us up with a points deduction. Now it’s looking like if we get the expected -12 we’re in league one next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, GMOwl72 said: The only players I would keep are: Palmer and as much as many wont like it....over the hill as well. Palmer has never been good enough. The others are that poor he’s suddenly become acceptable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fish Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Same thing happened with Sibon But Sibon was signed as a premier league player and he was gash. Like his mate De Bilde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, clud17 said: They are all bang average. Those players that may have been top 6 are no longer top 6 players. Yes, that’s the point - Bannan and Lee come into that category IMHO, but both of them are now past their peak. Iorfa is probably our only top 6 player now - and I can’t see us hanging on to him if we go into League One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, alanharper said: My squad appraisal. I feel a larger shìte is required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Big Fish said: But Sibon was signed as a premier league player and he was gash. Like his mate De Bilde. And de bilde's mate......his dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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