Manwë Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Only £14k a week? They will have to find a way around this injustice, imagine only earning in a week what a nurse earns in six months. Would cap it lower personally, if some lower league players think La Liga are going to come begging they can think again. Clubs are going under, supporters are not allowed to enter the premises, staff are losing their jobs. Players cannot be immune from society. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettleForADraw Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, beswetherick said: Isn't that what FFP/P&S is supposed to do? Yep, but as it’s over 3 years encourages shît or bust spending. Doesn’t matter if you go up, you’ve circa £100million to add to your accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Advert on club site Part time Club shop assistant required might suit wife of players £25,000 per week. Must work the full four hours. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: If his contract includes a playing role, he must be set at 13,800 like every other player. I believe Derby only pay part of his salary, the rest is by sponsors. Also when he was at Man U they paid a fee every month to an offshore company, who then paid Rooney. Tax dodge, alledgedly. They're all bang at it mate. Some of the big earners at the BBC do the same. They'll find a way around it. It's a noble idea but it'll never work - the PL won't let it spoil their gravytrain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Simple. Every player who signs for a Premier league club has a clause inserted in their contract saying upon relegation their wage will drop to £13.800 in line with the EFL wage cap. This would mean failure payments could be scrapped immediately. So that will then make it harder for promoted teams to stay up as not as many players will be willing to sign for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: Salary cap im afraid doesn't work. They get round it with sponsors. Exactly what happens in Rugby Like Saracens did? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themagiccap Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I thought I'd read that any any existing contract over the average would count as £720k (average annual salary) against the cap but all new contracts would count against the cap in its entirety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Dont have a problem with a salary cap in principle, but has to be fair. Has to apply to all, no exceptions and close down the Rooney type loopholes, maybe a standard contract applicable to all players. That said, dont see how it can be applied, as it's reliant on the EFL to devise and manage, and wouldn't trust them to organise a ******** up in a brewery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: Salary cap im afraid doesn't work. They get round it with sponsors. Exactly what happens in Rugby Saracens got relegated for breaking it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Any rules only work if 24 teams in the league have the same rules. If Premier league teams are exempt what's the point. Each team should have the same set budget of say £25m they choose if it goes on salaries, fees, loans. If you break it by 1p you are unable to be promoted and the next team down is it replace you in the play offs/ automatics. This only works with all 24 teams having the same rules. Parachute Payments are excluded as income thus pending them useless to get a competitive advantage. The Premier League will never let it happen though. What could also help is scrapping the transfer window so clubs don't have to carry extra players. Then teams could have 1st team squad of 20 players instead of needing 25+. Edited July 16, 2020 by room0035 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 In rugby all of the clubs signed up to it and generally held the line. Except Saracens. Nigel Wray their owner personally invested in houses with Maro Itoje and Jamie George etc. Breweries with Schalk Britts and Big Jim Hamilton etc. Wolfpack. Nothing to do with Saracens they argued. Won 4 championships and 3 european cups before the bloody Daily Mail uncovered it. Saracens docked 78 points and bye bye. Still got the trophies. Football finances are fooked. Just let everyone get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onslow Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Not an unrealistic offering. All players in each League (excl prem) paid the same flat rate. Naturally a sliding scale down the pyramid Would get rid of the prima donna tantrums over not being the best paid individual. Team game after all. Get to the Prem and its the promised land open doors, seems a fair reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It will be interesting looking at clubs finances during the pandemic...I've got a feeling that it will be scrapped after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 forgot to follow up. I mention the Rooney situation, not sure if people are clued up on it but this is it https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/wayne-rooney-derby-county-record-32red-sponsorship-deal#:~:text=English second-tier soccer side,(US%24109%2C000) weekly wage. Basically their getting round this by using the sponsors to pay most of his wages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jonnyowl said: Or roughly £13,800 per player per week for a squad of 25. This is being discussed by clubs this coming week. I support a salary cap but then FFP needs to be changed! What will happen to clubs relegated from premiership? Will they have an advantage? For those promoted, there going to have to dramatically increase their wage bill to compete. Easy, parachute payment covers existing contracts... which was the orginal idea. No new contracts above 13.8k pwk. No new signings untill your squad is 24 players. Chance of happening. 0.00001% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 last time we had a salary cap the PFA voted to strike and the league caved in and binned it ......dont see this having the backing of the players . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I’m all for a salary cap but those figures are to pacify tin pot teams that can never compete financially effectively consigning the bigger teams to the championship and keeping the product marketable. Needs to be closer to £50 million and parachute payments either scrapped or be part of the cap. I’m not convinced the EFL or the smaller teams will go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: Salary cap im afraid doesn't work. They get round it with sponsors. Exactly what happens in Rugby Saracens were stripped of their league titles, docked 105 points, relegated and fined over £5m (which in rugby terms is huge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, NeonLeon said: Considering it’ll dilute the PL if they enforce it straight away, I’d imagine they’ll give relegated clubs 3 seasons to comply. It’d be easy to say that’s a negative because it’s a step that moves towards the PL becoming a closed shop for say 23-25 teams. But at the moment history suggests PL teams struggle to bounce back first time, regardless of how much they spend. . Over the last 15 years, on average 1 of the 3 relegated teams is promoted again the following season. What is significant though is since parachute payments were introduced in 2006, an average 2 of the 3 teams promoted each season from the championship were in receipt of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, CalmJimmers said: A straight salary cap would not work, so many ways to get out of it, players unions won't support it, if they did they would go elsewhere worldwide. Have a maximum overall club spend, one where whatever the club spends their money on they cannot go above a certain amount. As soon as they do they get a points deduction and/or transfer embargo. Basically similar to what American sports have. Let's players still negotiate freely, but would drive wages down overall and gets rid of loopholes like paying a family member a stupid amount. Stuff like academy and infrastructure spend needs to be separated from that overall spend i think, otherwise a lot will end up underfunded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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