Pastor Kidneys Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Yes if he had anything about him he would have insisted on bringing his own team on day one like Bruce did. Brucie even told Chansiri i'm going to the cricket first so I'll turn up when i'm ready. The only difference is Monk was on the failure carousel and just grabbed whatever job was dangled in front of him. All this "he's been dealt a bad hand" is bolix ... he knew what was here when he snatched the contract. Didn't have the b*lls or the clout to dictate his own terms. Jobsworth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Pep Clotet left as Brum manager tonight. Maybe he and Monk could kiss and make up and get him in as his assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Same amount of kitmen as we have coaches. That's good to know our players lose in clean crisp shirts. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Pep Clotet left as Brum manager tonight. Maybe he and Monk could kiss and make up and get him in as his assistant. Or maybe Monk could do one and go back there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, NeonLeon said: Might be doing him a disservice but I think Needs is just an analyst too. So it’s not like he’s someone Monk can lean on for advice and ideas really, like he could a Clotet or Beattie. Needs must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Pep Clotet left as Brum manager tonight. Maybe he and Monk could kiss and make up and get him in as his assistant. Cant see it happening really. If we get Clotet and Beattie in then it’s just more people to pay off when things go sour which they’re not far off doing now to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everywhere & nowhere Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Looking at that team (and even assuming they are all good at their assigned jobs) it doesn’t make me think that Monk has anywhere near enough support for individual match preparation, tactics, strategy, in game management or much else that could make a significant difference. He seems to be on his own for many aspects of the manager’s job in a way previous others haven’t. Blaming him for accepting that situation is one thing but the reason why he doesn’t have that support is probably closer to the real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Maybe he can get his understudy from Birmingham cos he got the bullet late last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Many hands make light work...so I’m glad to see we have 2 Masseurs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 First it was the bad eggs Now they’ve gone and we’re still terrible it’s the lack of coaches And when we have some of those next season Monk will still be awful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: First it was the bad eggs Now they’ve gone and we’re still terrible it’s the lack of coaches Nope The lack of coaches has been an issue since day one, has been brought up since day one, and for months I've been asking why we have more masseurs than first team coaches coaching our players Ps - you do realise that it's not just 'bad eggs' OR 'no coaching structure' right? Want to also discuss transfer embargoes, lack of spending, FFP restrictions, EFL charges looming, players not getting paid etc etc ? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axolotl Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Nope The lack of coaches has been an issue since day one, has been brought up since day one, and for months I've been asking why we have more masseurs than first team coaches coaching our players We have 3/4 staff members who take coaching (Monk, Bullen, Cooper and Weaver for GK) and 2 masseurs? Edit - do need more coaching staff, though, definitely. But I don't think we have more masseurs than coaching staff Edited July 9, 2020 by axolotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 That structure sums things up perfectly. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Neil Thompson is missing from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Nope The lack of coaches has been an issue since day one, has been brought up since day one, and for months I've been asking why we have more masseurs than first team coaches coaching our players If Monk has a lack of staff to help him its his own fault he took the job knowing what was going to happen, but he was either desperate for job or he thought he could do it all himself if he was promised things that haven't happened he needs to resign for his own sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, the third man said: If Monk has a lack of staff to help him its his own fault You think so? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: You think so? Why take a job knowing you werent going to get anyone to help you, Bruce didn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, the third man said: Why take a job knowing you werent going to get anyone to help you, Bruce didn't Why take a manager on and not let him have a support structure? There's also the suggestion that Bullen was forced on Monk You can't just lump every responsibility onto an incoming manager. The chairman (wherever he is) needs to share the burden Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Sack the lot of them! Well maybe apart from the kitmen. Edited July 9, 2020 by jonnyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Why take a manager on and not let him have a support structure? There's also the suggestion that Bullen was forced on Monk You can't just lump every responsibility onto an incoming manager. The chairman (wherever he is) needs to share the burden OK if the chairman refused that's his fault, he offered the job, Monk took it based on what he was told, so back to what i said, he was either desperate for a job or thought he could do it all himself, only one person to blame for taking the job on those terms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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