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1 hour ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

The good ones are usually AES encrypted. Split tunnelling on top and you are as safe as can be with current technologies.

 

Taken from a well known quality VPN which does not keep logs and is registered in a country that does not subscribe to the 'five eyes' agreement.

 

Besides hiding your IP address and mixing your traffic with that of other users, XXX VPN also encrypts your traffic between secure VPN servers and your computer, so that it can’t be read by third parties in between, such as your internet service provider or your local Wi-Fi operator.

 

XXX VPN uses AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with 256-bit keys—also known as AES-256. It’s the same encryption standard adopted by the U.S. government and used by security experts worldwide to protect classified information.

256-bit keys means 2^256 or 1.1 x 10^77 possible combinations. That’s 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,853,269,984,665,640,560,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 combinations! A brute-force attack on a 256-bit keyspace is simply infeasible, even if all the world’s most powerful supercomputers ran for as long as the universe has existed so far, billions and billions of times over.

 

 

 

Sound info.... and no one is reading it thinking about hiding using of a dodgy football stream 😂

Just saying. 

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I noticed the series of letters and numbers

 

It also could be a clue of getting more refunds and  the result of Wednesday EFL decision

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On 01/07/2020 at 22:24, bobness said:

 

The MAC address is used to communicate within your network, the IP address is what's used to communicate on the internet. So your MAC doesn't escape your network.

Within the data packet sent from your device, the MAC address is replaced by each network the data traverses, but the destination IP remains the same. 

 

Thanks for that, whats it mean?

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On 01/07/2020 at 21:09, dr. benway said:

It happens all the time. Looks like a MAC address. Almost certainly not an identification as it’s encoded into the stream, which would be technically, er, “difficult” to do on an individual basis. Fascinating idea though!

It's not a mac address. It'll be a GUID for the id of the user account you are logged in with so they can identify your account rather than your hardware

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13 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

The good ones are usually AES encrypted. Split tunnelling on top and you are as safe as can be with current technologies.

 

Taken from a well known quality VPN which does not keep logs and is registered in a country that does not subscribe to the 'five eyes' agreement.

 

Besides hiding your IP address and mixing your traffic with that of other users, XXX VPN also encrypts your traffic between secure VPN servers and your computer, so that it can’t be read by third parties in between, such as your internet service provider or your local Wi-Fi operator.

 

XXX VPN uses AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with 256-bit keys—also known as AES-256. It’s the same encryption standard adopted by the U.S. government and used by security experts worldwide to protect classified information.

256-bit keys means 2^256 or 1.1 x 10^77 possible combinations. That’s 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,853,269,984,665,640,560,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 combinations! A brute-force attack on a 256-bit keyspace is simply infeasible, even if all the world’s most powerful supercomputers ran for as long as the universe has existed so far, billions and billions of times over.

 

 

 

 

Is expressvpn ok?

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9 minutes ago, Sultan_Pepper said:

It's not a mac address. It'll be a GUID for the id of the user account you are logged in with so they can identify your account rather than your hardware

 

Fairly sure this happened with the stream I was watching, the strings started to appear, then the stream completely froze and he had to create a new account to pay and watch and stream it again.

He just paid straight away again with paypal, can only imagine payment is fraudulent somehow, can't imagine streaming our matches can be really profitable for these sites if they were having to pay £10 twice a game.

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25 minutes ago, Sultan_Pepper said:

It's not a mac address. It'll be a GUID for the id of the user account you are logged in with so they can identify your account rather than your hardware


I meant the MAC address of the machine that’s doing the encode rather than the client machine—however you could be right! I’m just surprised they’d go to the length of doing that since you’d have to dedicate some resources to watermarking the individual streams before they go out (I mean, it looks watermarked pre-delivery to me since it appears to be subject to the same compression artefacting). Maybe there’s a cheap way to do it though? I’d be interested to find out!

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16 minutes ago, dr. benway said:


I meant the MAC address of the machine that’s doing the encode rather than the client machine—however you could be right! I’m just surprised they’d go to the length of doing that since you’d have to dedicate some resources to watermarking the individual streams before they go out (I mean, it looks watermarked pre-delivery to me since it appears to be subject to the same compression artefacting). Maybe there’s a cheap way to do it though? I’d be interested to find out!

Yeah it seems an odd one re-encoding on an account by account basis especially if they've got any sort of caching or cdn style delivery to save on their bandwidth costs let alone the processing involved but I can't see what else it's doing. I'm assuming it's in the video feed and not layered on top in the web player which would make a lot more sense but is far easier to get around. If we get a really boring match v Swansea I might do some digging

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So they're basically sending out individual mac addresses to the screens in case someone re-streams it or makes a copy of it so they can trace it back?

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54 minutes ago, fingyfop said:

 

Is expressvpn ok?

 

The best on the market IMHO.

 

Funnily enough, it is the most expensive too.

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1 hour ago, Sultan_Pepper said:

Yeah it seems an odd one re-encoding on an account by account basis especially if they've got any sort of caching or cdn style delivery to save on their bandwidth costs let alone the processing involved but I can't see what else it's doing. I'm assuming it's in the video feed and not layered on top in the web player which would make a lot more sense but is far easier to get around. If we get a really boring match v Swansea I might do some digging

 

I'd gone with incompetence over malice and assumed that it was an accidental overlaying of the machine's MAC address, but the more I'm thinking about it then maybe there is something deliberate about it. I confess I saw a hex string of about the right length and assumed it was a MAC address, but never actually verified the number of digits etc...

 

I'd be shocked if they weren't using a CDN of some kind.

 

I'm sufficiently interested now that I'd be glad to do some digging myself, but unfortunately can't this Sunday as I'm on the normal subscriber plan for overseas folk so can't watch the iFollow stream.

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:


So they're basically sending out individual mac addresses to the screens in case someone re-streams it or makes a copy of it so they can trace it back?

 

We're not sure exactly (and it may not be a MAC address, that's possibly me misinterpreting), but that's pretty much what we're wondering.

 

I'm getting the keys to the Mystery Machine as we speak...

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2 hours ago, dr. benway said:

 

We're not sure exactly (and it may not be a MAC address, that's possibly me misinterpreting), but that's pretty much what we're wondering.

 

I'm getting the keys to the Mystery Machine as we speak...

 

Let us know what you find out, I would be interested.

 

I would have thought that it is highly unlikely to be a MAC address as they are allocated to a specific user on a one for one basis.

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It's just muck Hub checking on why you're watching something different.

 

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Like this?

 

Don't worry, it's not an ID for tracking any illegal streaming. 

 

It's just a draft version of next season's squad numbers that Chansiri is working on 

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22 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

Not as much as you think.

 

I have to use one for my job, but I also use it for private browsing.

 

 

 

 

 

Ahh!

 

Now we understand.

 

Pornhub!  Redtube,  Taxi 69.WTF:

 

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10 minutes ago, oldtawnyowl said:

 

Ahh!

 

Now we understand.

 

Pornhub!  Redtube,  Taxi 69.WTF:

 

 

Don't forget midget ladyboys

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24 minutes ago, oldtawnyowl said:

 

Ahh!

 

Now we understand.

 

Pornhub!  Redtube,  Taxi 69.WTF:

 

 

Midget ladyboys and x hamster (my favourite)

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ifollow is fiikin crap

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It’s a watermark to see who is leaking the stream. 
 

hollywood do this on screeners for the oscars 

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