Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, M Royds said: It’s unbelievable. Some people. They should rename this tiredclichetalk.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Wrong thread Edited July 1, 2020 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Carlos motivated a squad who in the previous season had scored just 16 goals at home - with additional players he didn't choose, or give contracts to, into a team of players that finished in the play off spots twice - and was 20 minutes away from taking us to the Premier League. The 2 best league placings in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: Carlos motivated a squad who in the previous season had scored just 16 goals at home - with additional players he didn't choose, or give contracts to, into a team of players that finished in the play off spots twice - and was 20 minutes away from taking us to the Premier League. The 2 best league placings in 20 years. And lost. And bottled it the next year - when we should have won. A miss is as good as a mile. Unless you're Sheffield United - then any crap goes on the honours board. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, ReadingOwl said: And lost. And bottled it the next year - when we should have won. A miss is as good as a mile. Unless you're Sheffield United - then any crap goes on the honours board. Regardless people are still blaming him Hilarious. Fookwits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: All we really know is how he performed on the pitch and he was exemplary. 100% committed. Anything else with Hutch is total and utter speculation - assumptions based on no inside information just it must be this or it must be that rubbish. Excluded from the first team on two separate occasions. Yet the model professional. Come off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, SiJ said: Excluded from the first team on two separate occasions. Yet the model professional. Come off it. Still conjecture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Regardless people are still blaming him Hilarious. Fookwits Blamimg him for losing the first and bottling the second? Who else do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, ReadingOwl said: Blamimg him for losing the first and bottling the second? Who else do you suggest? No Blaming him for our current situation Please don't do the slow timing thing. You know what Im talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Still conjecture Circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.. Wonder who else ain't got paid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Grandad said: No Blaming him for our current situation Please don't do the slow timing thing. You know what Im talking about Not really up to speed. But I agree with the slow timing thing 100%. The site owner does it all the time. Blame Carlos for our current situation? - yes, he has a lot of the responsibility, dependant on how much he was in charge. Obviously the Chairman too. His tenure leaves a long shadow. Left a complete circus behind - culture, recruitment, fitness. Dependant on his autonomy, obviously. . Edited July 1, 2020 by ReadingOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, ReadingOwl said: Dependant on his autonomy, obviously. Which has been long acknowledged was non existent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Injury or suspension waiting to happen. Should have been long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.. Wonder who else ain't got paid.. Circumstantial evidence says our most successful recent managers rated him - Gray, Carlos, Bruce - and the comparative lobbers didn’t. I reckon that makes it 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Which has been long acknowledged was non existent Honestly don’t know. Will we ever know? Carlos was a complete charlatan, a snake oil salesman IMO. Who I have zero affection for, retrospectively. Sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: Circumstantial evidence says our most successful recent managers rated him - Gray, Carlos, Bruce - and the comparative lobbers didn’t. I reckon that makes it 3-2. Collectively did well, as individuals and as a team with Hutch and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, ReadingOwl said: Honestly don’t know. Will we ever know? Carlos was a complete charlatan, a snake oil salesman IMO. Who I have zero affection for, retrospectively. Sorry. Don't apologise. Youve readily acknowledged you never watched a minute of the football we played under him. Which leaves you really not well placed to be judging him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 That much of a wrong’un like Westwood that the first thing that Bullen did when Jos left was to bring them straight into the team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, BIG D said: That much of a wrong’un like Westwood that the first thing that Bullen did when Jos left was to bring them straight into the team. And immediately improve us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, BIG D said: That much of a wrong’un like Westwood that the first thing that Bullen did when Jos left was to bring them straight into the team. Good owd bully...what a legend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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