Guest Grandad Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1st July: Announced that we have been given a 21 point deduction, all suspended, and warned against future breeches of FFP 31st July: Club reveal latest accounts showing a £50m loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grandad said: 1st July: Announced that we have been given a 21 point deduction, all suspended, and warned against future breeches of FFP 31st July: Club reveal latest accounts showing a £50m loss Mitigating circumstances - Borukov is now off the pay roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Grandad said: 1st July: Announced that we have been given a 21 point deduction, all suspended, and warned against future breeches of FFP 31st July: Club reveal latest accounts showing a £50m loss I could believe one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Surely be a bad day at the office today after yesterdays result and optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheowls Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12pts+ deduction and relegated as a consequence. Just can’t see us getting away with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I’m an eternal optimist so I’m hoping that the fact that everything we did in relation to FFP/the accounts was overseen by the EFL due to our previous “soft embargo” and that our argument was based on that. We can’t have done anything wrong if it was signed off as part of that process therefore some fudge of a punishment that saves face for both parties and shuts Gibson up. Play-Offs here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12 point deduction, but suspended till the start of next season. DC given a strong warning about his future conduct - effectively the equivalent of a yellow card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 13 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 9pts with 6 of those suspended and a fine. EFL will look like they’ve got something out of it, swfc will be delighted with outcome and no appeal process to affect next season going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 A last minute settlement is reached so no verdict is actually given so everyone 'saves face'. The problem is, what we did was dodgy as hell but the EFL seem to have cocked up and someone gave permission when they shouldn't. A compromised 6 point suspended deduction in a settlement will end up appealing to both parties when it becomes obvious neither can be confident of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 IF we get points deducted and I still hope we wont it will have to be applied to this season or else they will have all sorts of legal sh*t incoming from the clubs at the bottom who are hoping for a life belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Not guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, striker said: Not guilty 2 of us at least keep the faith til we crash and burn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said: I’m absolutely convinced that the information that came to light ‘after the event’, was Gibson stamping his feet and probably threatening legal action of his own, the EFL then thought, let’s go for the naive foreigner, don’t want to upset Mr Gibson. The EFL have got themselves in a right fluffery buffery! Do you honestly believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 The EFL have a unique opportunity for all this stuff to go away and to rethink its P&S system so that bigger clubs are allowed to run themselves as modern businesses. If an owner can afford it then it's sustainable...it might not be profitable but the current rules don't require it to be profitable. It should be about affordability. So for me, the outcome will leave us in the Championship with a clean slate for next season onwards. Warnock won't send us down, we will if we don't pick up more points. I think we are playing well enough to pick up the points we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Minimum 12 point deduction. This season or next season is the question. Touch and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Do you honestly believe that? I do too. We couldn’t fart without EFL’s authorisation, it was part of the deal to keep us from being properly punished and was put in place because the whole league and transfer market was in danger of total collapse due to spending limits based on 2014 prices. Our FFP Compliance Consultant recognised a loophole to avoid breaching those ridiculous limits as did other clubs. There were a high number of teams in the Championship also operating under EFL “audit” and our neighbours, don’t forget, were in a previous embargo that surprisingly none of the local press knew about and also borrowed money from the Bin Ladens to avoid a winding up order. I’m sick to death of folk making out that we’re massive high spenders and our Chairman is the dodgiest bloke that ever ran a club. Yes, he’s made some big mistakes, yes we bought someshite and yes we are partly responsible for the situation we’ve found ourselves in but the real problem is the rules and the modern game especially at our level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, Kew Owl said: 12 point deduction, but suspended till the start of next season. DC given a strong warning about his future conduct - effectively the equivalent of a yellow card Can't we take them spread over the next twelve seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 The obvious grey area is what we’ve done and the inference we’ve been the green light to do it. The lawyers will have a birthday with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: the real problem is the rules and the modern game especially at our level. yes certainly no supporter of the present owner but agree with the premise this is driven by gov agenda aand new efl chair and other clubs threatening efl to take action the disparity the parachute system creates is a factor too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I think we're going to get shafted, 21 point deduction with other sanctions on top. and yes i'm a "glass is half empty" kinda guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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