james o connor Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Swiss Toni said: We need to try and cut our losses somehow in the summer. We can’t afford to keep paying a player who is frozen out - that’s sheer madness. We just need a PL club who are looking for a back up keeper to take him off our hands for a nominal fee. I think his wages would scare most Championship clubs off. That’s the only way we will get rid of him , having a premier league club sign him as their past it ,token goalkeeper . Scott Carson , Richard Wright , Andy lonergan , John ruddy and rob green to name a few have done this in recent years . Championship sides aren’t going to sign him as his wages are high and he isn’t any good anymore . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, james o connor said: That’s the only way we will get rid of him , having a premier league club sign him as their past it ,token goalkeeper . Scott Carson , Richard Wright , Andy lonergan , John ruddy and rob green to name a few have done this in recent years . Championship sides aren’t going to sign him as his wages are high and he isn’t any good anymore . Huddersfield agreed to take him in January, but we wanted a fee.... should have taken that and put in a clause in for them to pay a nominal fee if they stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Asking for a fee for Westwood is ridiculous, best case scenario is a free transfer or loan to mitigate the cost of his wages for the last year of his contract Edited June 25, 2020 by striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What a life. Paid tens of thousands of pounds for doing absolutely nothing. The unbelievable world of football. Really does beggar belief 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Sell Sell Sell! Best keeper we have but unless Monk goes sharpish he isn’t going to get near the first team again so let’s cut our losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, james o connor said: That’s the only way we will get rid of him , having a premier league club sign him as their past it ,token goalkeeper . Scott Carson , Richard Wright , Andy lonergan , John ruddy and rob green to name a few have done this in recent years . Championship sides aren’t going to sign him as his wages are high and he isn’t any good anymore . Only issue is that bigger clubs do it so that they can add them to their CL squads as a British player and means they can put them on the bench and put more exotic names on the bench. English CL teams have done that with Carson, Grant, Wright and Turnbull. Fact that Westwood is ROI may go against him on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Been a very good keeper but again you’ve got to question is attitude and whether he is one of those who is disruptive given 2 managers have banished him and hutch. Time to get rid. Premier club looking for a back up with no fee involved looks the only plausible solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, james o connor said: That’s the only way we will get rid of him , having a premier league club sign him as their past it ,token goalkeeper . Scott Carson , Richard Wright , Andy lonergan , John ruddy and rob green to name a few have done this in recent years . Championship sides aren’t going to sign him as his wages are high and he isn’t any good anymore . He's still an excellent Championship keeper. He conceded 15 goals in the 14 games he played this season. I've no idea what his wages are but in the current climate few clubs are going to be offering big salaries. Unless he can get a 2 year deal playing with another club, he can just sit at home for the next year doing nothing and pick up the same amount in wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: What a life. Paid tens of thousands of pounds for doing absolutely nothing. The unbelievable world of football. Really does beggar belief Not his fault assuming he wants to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Bouncing Owl said: Been a very good keeper but again you’ve got to question is attitude and whether he is one of those who is disruptive given 2 managers have banished him and hutch. Time to get rid. Premier club looking for a back up with no fee involved looks the only plausible solution. Yet Bruce who is the only manager I rate out of the last 3 saw fit to make him is first choice keeper and give him a new 2 year contract. Do you think an experienced manger like Bruce would do that with a player who has a 'bad attitude ' and is 'disruptive'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 16 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Reckon he will be given a free transfer at the end of the season. We cant do that. We can offer him to clubs for no fee, but we cant just stop paying him and say see you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yet Bruce who is the only manager I rate out of the last 3 saw fit to make him is first choice keeper and give him a new 2 year contract. Do you think an experienced manger like Bruce would do that with a player who has a 'bad attitude ' and is 'disruptive'? I see your point but 2 managers have frozen him out. I don’t like Jos or Monk either but there is something strange with Westwood and hutch. I’m sure it will all come out in the wash at some point. They are both good players and would walk into our team but they have been cast aside. Very strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I’d be amazed if he moves on, he’s at the end of his career and will probably be happy to trouser as much money as he can before he officially hands up his gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yet Bruce who is the only manager I rate out of the last 3 saw fit to make him is first choice keeper and give him a new 2 year contract. Do you think an experienced manger like Bruce would do that with a player who has a 'bad attitude ' and is 'disruptive'? Isnt the issue with Westwood and Hutch availability? These managers would rather have a useless player 100 percent of the time than a great one 50 percent of the time. Maddness IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Daizan10 said: We cant do that. We can offer him to clubs for no fee, but we cant just stop paying him and say see you later. that’s what I was meaning. I don’t think we will demand a fee for him, the club will just want his wages off the book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Mills Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yet Bruce who is the only manager I rate out of the last 3 saw fit to make him is first choice keeper and give him a new 2 year contract. Do you think an experienced manger like Bruce would do that with a player who has a 'bad attitude ' and is 'disruptive'? Yes but it's like I said in another post Bruce was probably a strong personality manager not allowing dominant players to take the ******** and big enough to knock him out should he start, you didn't see many players take the ******** out of Big Ron or big Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Maybe Westwood is waiting for Monk to leave so he gets a fresh start under a new manager here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 15 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Amazing really. little over 18 months ago he was on his way out, cast aside by the manager but despite interest there was no chance of him leaving until he ran down his contract, such was his wage. When the manager got sacked he was brought back in but still no new contract. By the time Steve Bruce had the chance to assess his squad, Westwood got offered 2 years. Given the way it has gone again you can only assume Bruce played a big part in influencing the decision to give him a new contract and knowing how much Bruce valued him, Westwood was able to negotiate 2 years rather than 1. Now we are back to paying him lots for nothing, so much so we have had to give a short-term contract extension to a goalkeeper who hasn't played a league game for anyone since 2016 to cover just in case. And that’s why I don’t want a refund on my season ticket, because every penny is spent so wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Bouncing Owl said: I see your point but 2 managers have frozen him out. I don’t like Jos or Monk either but there is something strange with Westwood and hutch. I’m sure it will all come out in the wash at some point. They are both good players and would walk into our team but they have been cast aside. Very strange As I have repeated many times Jos froze Westwood and Hutch out because he didn't think they were physically up to the demands of the championship, he wanted to play younger fitter players instead. It wasn't just those 2 that Jos took this stance with, Boyd and Jones suffered the same fate. Now I don't why Monk has done what he has done, could be the same reason Jos did it or something entirely different. IMO what it does show though is if you replace the best and most experienced players in their respective positions with inferior players, results can suffer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: As I have repeated many times Jos froze Westwood and Hutch out because he didn't think they were physically up to the demands of the championship, he wanted to play younger fitter players instead. It wasn't just those 2 that Jos took this stance with, Boyd and Jones suffered the same fate. Now I don't why Monk has done what he has done, could be the same reason Jos did it or something entirely different. IMO what it does show though is if you replace the best and most experienced players in their respective positions with inferior players, results can suffer. The trade off is perhaps proven to be worth it. 50 percent of games with good players vs 100 percent with worse = better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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