kobayashi Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, catdog1121 said: This is getting ridiculous a total change needs to happen as we cant end every season with the results of the league decided by the court room. A radical change should be made, scrap P&S and replace it with something else. My suggestion would be have a fund that all clubs pay into based on their income (say 5% of their income, easily done as just take it off what EFL gives the clubs) this then goes into a pot so if a club go into trouble the EFL step in, sell any assets and try to find a buyer for the club. There could be a mandatory clause in all player contracts that if the EFL take over the club then their contracts can be cancelled so the EFL can get a clubs spending very quickly under control. A club should not be allowed to be more than X amount in debt. Any owner that has the club taken over by the EFL will be banned from owning or running any football club for life. Obviously it would need a bit more meat but you get the idea, something radically different. This whole points deduction is a complete joke especially in our case where we have a rich owner so our spending is sustainable. The EFL is owned and governed by the clubs. Which club owners do you think is going to agree a plan which requires them to hand over 5% of their businesses income to a 3rd party for which their payback is the risk that if their business has financial difficulties then that the 3rd party will be allowed to seize their business and sell its assets etc? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecap Owl Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, bradowl said: Pigs at work reckon they would have qualified for Champions League had that goal stood. Was Tevez involved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, daveyboy66 said: Bournemouth and co come down with a £45 M failure payment...THAT should be the starting figure for any FFP limit per season for the rest of the clubs in the Championship Said as much on Twitter and got shot down. Ironically by a Norwich fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, bradowl said: Pigs at work reckon they would have qualified for Champions League had that goal stood. Never mind. I’m sure it will go on their honours board regardless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Simple fix. Spend what the foook you like, like happens in the real world. If you spend / gamble more than you can afford and go bust, serves you right...like happens in the real world. Besides that, how the foook does having a rule limiting spending to £39m help a club who can't get anywhere near that anyhow.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBridgfordowl Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Hodgyowl said: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/charlton-risk-expulsion-football-league-efl-demand-details-takeover-a4510536.html What a murky business football has become. Our chairman is only guilty of trying to put too much money into his club. As for Charlton, firstly why would anyone want to buy it and even if they did, why on earth buy it in the middle of a pandemic?! very worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Simple fix. Spend what the foook you like, like happens in the real world. If you spend / gamble more than you can afford and go bust, serves you right...like happens in the real world. Besides that, how the foook does having a rule limiting spending to £39m help a club who can't get anywhere near that anyhow.. So who would that be serving right? The owner, or the supporters who lose the club they have supported all their lives? The reason why there are rules in place is to avoid that very thing happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, steelcityowlsfan said: Said as much on Twitter and got shot down. Ironically by a Norwich fan. £45M would give every club a chance to spend within their means...if you haven't got it then you face the consequences 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: So who would that be serving right? The owner, or the supporters who lose the club they have supported all their lives? The reason why there are rules in place is to avoid that very thing happening. The rules are bent anyway. Why on earth should football creditors get first dibs on everything? Laws need changing so that all creditors are treated equally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, bradowl said: Pigs at work reckon they would have qualified for Champions League had that goal stood. Plus, would've done the triple if not for Tevez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Btw, if you’re bored of waiting still, check out Nick Harris on twitter and his dissection of the Man Citeh CAS findings. WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 whether we have sympathy with the Blunts or not is to me a travesty of justice.i have no objections to clubs appealing VAR decisions . The one thing I do object to is the time which expires between the action , the appeal and the decision.More and more football decisions are turning into court dramas. At one time , long before the introduction of 'technology', there was one man who acted as Judge and Jury, and there was little or no appeal to the Referee's decision. I honestly feel that the more the Ref's authority is questioned by camera, slow-motion whatever, the worse the quality of Refereeing has become, and Sport is the worse off for it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Meanwhile it's ok for Man City to show "blatant disregard" for FFP according to UEFA... so that's our ticket to getting rid of the EFL case against us. We're not in breach, we're just showing our blatant disregard for your silly rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 9 hours ago, N0rtherner said: Meanwhile it's ok for Man City to show "blatant disregard" for FFP according to UEFA... so that's our ticket to getting rid of the EFL case against us. We're not in breach, we're just showing our blatant disregard for your silly rules... More and more coming to the conclusion that the CAS / Man City full verdict is the reason our outcome is delayed. The reasoning behind the decision will become 'case law' in rule breaches so would make sense for the tribunal to wait for the full transcript prior to judgement on us. Its the only plausible explanation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 14 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Bournemouth and co come down with a £45 M failure payment...THAT should be the starting figure for any FFP limit per season for the rest of the clubs in the Championship They've got a fekkin nerve.. Bournemouth fined £7.6m after breaching Financial Fair Play rules By Sky Sports News HQ 13:59, UK, Tuesday 03 May 2016 Image:Bournemouth posted a £38.3m loss in 2014/15 Bournemouth will have to pay a fine of £7.6m after they broke Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules on their way to securing promotion to the Premier League last season. Clubs are allowed a 'maximum deviation' of £6m per season without punishment under the FFP agreement but the Cherries posted a £38.3m loss in 2014/15 as they won the Sky Bet Championship. The was an increase from a loss of £10.3m the previous season, predominantly due to player and staff wages, which rose to £30.4m, a figure more than double the club's turnover of £12.9m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsfan_72 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Nero said: They've got a fekkin nerve.. Bournemouth fined £7.6m after breaching Financial Fair Play rules By Sky Sports News HQ 13:59, UK, Tuesday 03 May 2016 Image:Bournemouth posted a £38.3m loss in 2014/15 Bournemouth will have to pay a fine of £7.6m after they broke Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules on their way to securing promotion to the Premier League last season. Clubs are allowed a 'maximum deviation' of £6m per season without punishment under the FFP agreement but the Cherries posted a £38.3m loss in 2014/15 as they won the Sky Bet Championship. The was an increase from a loss of £10.3m the previous season, predominantly due to player and staff wages, which rose to £30.4m, a figure more than double the club's turnover of £12.9m. The also broke doping controls in 2017 and got away with a fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: Are we there yet? As Homer Simpson once said, ‘I’m not lost, I’m just in a place where I don’t know where I am’. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Just a thought, but I wonder whether we've already been found not to have broken the rules. But that result was thought to be too controversial to relegated teams. So the announcement is delayed to take the heat off things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Wigans hearing on Friday... Please let them off, please let them off and send Barnsley down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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