royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I would say so, less chance of whatever it is being applied this season if it's a deduction If it's a deduction, and it's any more than 8 points, I'd rather have it this year. Starting any division on minus points would kill us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: If it's a deduction, and it's any more than 8 points, I'd rather have it this year. Starting any division on minus points would kill us. I'd rather take our chances, I think next season is an important one to be in the championship bearing in mind what is going on at the moment. Lots of club's will be in financial difficulty down in league one or two and being in the same division as them can't do anything good for us as well as miss out on a year of championship money 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: If it's a deduction, and it's any more than 8 points, I'd rather have it this year. Starting any division on minus points would kill us. Dont go there again, you want to chance going down to a league that may well collapse and therefore put our future in jeopardy. IF that was the case I would sooner take my chances in the championship every time whatever the points deduction. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: I'd rather take our chances, I think next season is an important one to be in the championship bearing in mind what is going on at the moment. Lots of club's will be in financial difficulty down in league one or two and being in the same division as them can't do anything good for us as well as miss out on a year of championship money My worry is starting League One on minus points... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: My worry is starting League One on minus points... How would that work? It's only one points deduction, so either we get relegated or start next season on minus points (if we do get a deduction) but we can't be relegated *and* start on minus points in League 1 Edited July 27, 2020 by Minton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Minton said: How would that work? It's only one points deduction, so either we get relegated or start next season on minus points (if we do get a deduction) but we can't be relegated *and* start on minus points in League 1 When we hand over our accounts in 4 days time, further adding to our potential punishment. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, royalowlisback said: When we hand over our accounts in 4 days time, further adding to our potential punishment. Christ.... from frying pan into the fire 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: When we hand over our accounts in 4 days time, further adding to our potential punishment. The EFL have already seen our accounts, teams have to show provisional accounts to the EFL end of Feb so that any deductions can be sorted before the season ends (a la Birmingham) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Minton said: The EFL have already seen our accounts, teams have to show provisional accounts to the EFL end of Feb so that any deductions can be sorted before the season ends (a la Birmingham) But we are being charged for 'offences' relating to the year before, and were charged back in November, so could our latest accounts, if big losses have accrued (which they most certainly will have done) compound our punishment further, for example some punishment can be suspended, and come into play if further breaches are made? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The EFL be like .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: When we hand over our accounts in 4 days time, further adding to our potential punishment. So you have seen our accounts? Did you play Fraser in dads army, cos its all bloody doom and gloom with you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 37 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: But we are being charged for 'offences' relating to the year before, and were charged back in November, so could our latest accounts, if big losses have accrued (which they most certainly will have done) compound our punishment further, for example some punishment can be suspended, and come into play if further breaches are made? We don't have anything to worry about with the latest accounts. The stadium sale has put paid to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, No Uniform said: We don't have anything to worry about with the latest accounts. The stadium sale has put paid to that. Those were the year before's accounts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Asio otus said: So you have seen our accounts? Did you play Fraser in dads army, cos its all bloody doom and gloom with you Yep, I'm a Scottish Actor that died 40 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: Those were the year before's accounts? And FFP works on a rolling 3 years accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, No Uniform said: We don't have anything to worry about with the latest accounts. The stadium sale has put paid to that. Where do you get that from we can lose £39m over 3 years if the July 2019 figures are worse than £21m loss we will breach the limits. Taking the sale of the stadium out of the July 2018 figures we lost £36m it was a 14 month period but even over a year that £31m about £10m more losses than we can have. There are allowable expenses such as youth development but if the losses for July 2019 accounting figures are north of £20m we are going to be very close to breaching the limits again for last season. If this hearing going on into next week do not be surprised if the accounts are not filed by Friday We hope for the best but we fear the worse it is the Wednesday way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Christ.... from frying pan into the fire More than likely breached again, so Umbongo time once more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, room0035 said: Where do you get that from we can lose £39m over 3 years if the July 2019 figures are worse than £21m loss we will breach the limits. Taking the sale of the stadium out of the July 2018 figures we lost £36m it was a 14 month period but even over a year that £31m about £10m more losses than we can have. There are allowable expenses such as youth development but if the losses for July 2019 accounting figures are north of £20m we are going to be very close to breaching the limits again for last season. If this hearing going on into next week do not be surprised if the accounts are not filed by Friday We hope for the best but we fear the worse it is the Wednesday way. Exactly, Uri Geller and the Bereyt's are out in force again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, royalowlisback said: When we hand over our accounts in 4 days time, further adding to our potential punishment. Another one with a wish list for Santa...bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, daveyboy66 said: Another one with a wish list for Santa...bless Yeah, I wished for a sarky reply, and I got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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