owls-swfc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: S we will have a points deduction if any or a fine starting next season in the CHAMPIONSHIP Not guilty m'lord, FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 BBC have an article. When the verdict is announced, we have 14 days to lodge an appeal and then it has to be heard within 21 days. With the administrative end of season being begging of August, 4th i read somewhere, if an appeal is still on going a points deduction would be applied next season. Cue relegated clubs getting lawyers involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sham67 said: As much as I hate to say it. Football seems to bobbing on ok without fans at the moment. Its crap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, September65 said: The panel isn't sitting currently though is it? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedwig Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, steelowl said: yep I've given up on this twice already this week Only twice this week. Think I'm on "give up rev. 10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, September65 said: My understanding (which I am happy to be corrected on) is that the Panel sat for three weeks. I assumed they sat as long as they needed to in order to make a decision. I don't think they are considering the evidence currently are they? It that is correct, and they for whatever reason haven't made a decision, what are they waiting for? To see how many points everyone ends up with so they can make a deduction that either maximises or minimises impact? To wait until the Derby case is heard? Sorry but I just don't get the whole thing. EFL say the panel haven't reached a decision yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sham67 said: As much as I hate to say it. Football seems to bobbing on ok without fans at the moment. In the short term with TV money yes it is. The EFL can't operate without the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, bradowl said: This might have already been posted, I'm busy working. Alex Miller from Star. Just received a call from the EFL to provide clarity on an aspect of last night's statement. To be clear.. the point on any punishment being enacted this season is pertinent only to Wigan's very separate situation. They will be punished after the final whistle tmrw. #SWFC I'm still not clear on this lot. Does it actually mean that we won't get any punishment this season? If so then I'll happily take our chances next season with a deduction should we be found guilty. Still praying we're cleared mind you. Edited July 21, 2020 by latemodelchild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, September65 said: My understanding (which I am happy to be corrected on) is that the Panel sat for three weeks. I assumed they sat as long as they needed to in order to make a decision. I don't think they are considering the evidence currently are they? It that is correct, and they for whatever reason haven't made a decision, what are they waiting for? To see how many points everyone ends up with so they can make a deduction that either maximises or minimises impact? To wait until the Derby case is heard? Sorry but I just don't get the whole thing. We don't know why it is taking as long as it is taking for the independent panel to reach a decision and from the tone of yesterdays announcement neither do the EFL. It could be the volume or the complexity of evidence; it could be that one of the panel is not available due to other commitments or illness; it could be lots of things but one of them isn't waiting to see how many points they need to deduct to relegate/not relegate (delete as needed for the conspiracy theorists) Wednesday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 OK, thanks all for clarifying that the Panel is still considering evidence and hasn't made its decision. I guess I thought that because de Marco was busy on the Derby case, ours must have completed, but perhaps he's done all he needs to for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedwig Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The Sheffield Star lads once again getting the story and bringing us the info we are looking for Its time for those with outdated views of The Star to recognise the job that Joe Crann and Alex Miller are doing for us right now Bravo............. 5* journalism right there... In Theory = haven't a clue, but seen it in other social media platforms so will use it anyway !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, September65 said: My understanding (which I am happy to be corrected on) is that the Panel sat for three weeks. I assumed they sat as long as they needed to in order to make a decision. I don't think they are considering the evidence currently are they? It that is correct, and they for whatever reason haven't made a decision, what are they waiting for? To see how many points everyone ends up with so they can make a deduction that either maximises or minimises impact? To wait until the Derby case is heard? Sorry but I just don't get the whole thing. My take on it is that it took 3 weeks for the club & the EFL to present their evidence. The independent panel is still deliberating on the evidence provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, September65 said: My understanding (which I am happy to be corrected on) is that the Panel sat for three weeks. I assumed they sat as long as they needed to in order to make a decision. I don't think they are considering the evidence currently are they? It that is correct, and they for whatever reason haven't made a decision, what are they waiting for? To see how many points everyone ends up with so they can make a deduction that either maximises or minimises impact? To wait until the Derby case is heard? Sorry but I just don't get the whole thing. The IDC started work in April and the final stage of the proceedings, the hearing, started on 22 June and was expected to last for a week. Since then we've all been guessing. Either the hearing is still ongoing (unlikely), the IDC is still deliberating (possible) or they have come to a decision and are sitting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Cue relegated clubs getting lawyers involved. Cant if they are the rules they all signed up to, but again it is the EFL but any further legal action cant start until after Aug 4th so that would mean next season cant start until after the new court hearing, unless the club taking action is just after compensation Could get even more messy yet Edited July 21, 2020 by the third man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: BBC have an article. When the verdict is announced, we have 14 days to lodge an appeal and then it has to be heard within 21 days. With the administrative end of season being begging of August, 4th i read somewhere, if an appeal is still on going a points deduction would be applied next season. Cue relegated clubs getting lawyers involved. Can't see how that would work. The independent panel are making the decision and I wouldn't think the relegated clubs could sue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, September65 said: My understanding (which I am happy to be corrected on) is that the Panel sat for three weeks. I assumed they sat as long as they needed to in order to make a decision. I don't think they are considering the evidence currently are they? It that is correct, and they for whatever reason haven't made a decision, what are they waiting for? To see how many points everyone ends up with so they can make a deduction that either maximises or minimises impact? To wait until the Derby case is heard? Sorry but I just don't get the whole thing. Panel of 3 1 votes guilty 1 votes innocent the other is undecided, they then go and seek clarification on some points from the EFL, Club and experts, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, September65 said: The Independent Commission has sat, finished, made its decision, hasn't it? So why hasn't the EFL communicated it? Brings into question the whole issue of validity of the term Independent Commission; Someone has been bringing pressure to bare in order to slow down the process under an agreement of mutual none disclosure. Could be us, could be the EFL. Edited July 21, 2020 by nevthelodgemoorowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthndav Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Hookowl said: EFL say the panel haven't reached a decision yet. The sandwiches are too good to reach a decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Someone has been bringing pressure to bare in order to slow down the process under an agreement of mutual none disclosure. Source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, mogbad said: My take on it is that it took 3 weeks for the club & the EFL to present their evidence. The independent panel is still deliberating on the evidence provided. A crown court trial can take weeks but a jury is expected to return a decision within days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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