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16 minutes ago, Essix Blue said:

 


hang on, what?????

 

classic OT

2 posts quoting an article source with 2 different  readings 

 

I cancelled the subscription to it as it was regurgitated rubbish IMO (James) 

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Can we have a “promotion” party if stay up? You know - open top bus and all that 

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Got the nervous poos today. Reckon it’s a sign a decision is imminent. 

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Come 5pm we’ll be non the wiser.

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Who’s running the EFL... Boris ?

They will probably wait to see how we get on at Fulham so that they can deduct the appropriate amount of points to ensure relegation.

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35 minutes ago, mattitheowl said:

 

The Athletic article suggests we'll find out today!  It says they expect a verdict before the Fulham game!

Thanks, but who are the Athletic and how do they know? 

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2 minutes ago, 442 said:

Come 5pm we’ll be non the wiser.

Some people don't need to wait til that time tbh.

 

You excluded of course.

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In that case why wait till after the Fulham game? Why not just deduct 21 and then we're down anyway? 

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1 minute ago, FreshOwl said:

Thanks, but who are the Athletic and how do they know? 

Exactly, wTF it's got to to with Oldham Charlton and Annan is beyond me.

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1 hour ago, TheEnchanter said:

 

This is my very gripe with the issue itself. 

 

Anyone that thought this siuation was acceptable or normal for a well run club or that it'll be fine and we will win the case (of course maybe we will) and stick it to the EFL is mistaken. Anyone that supports the club even getting us into this situation clearly hasn't factored in the reality that it infects your club for season upon season. It doesn't get resolved overnight. If it does run into next season then we have a whole 12 months more of hands tied behind our backs, uncertainty, decline, inability to plan. The knock on of which will then affect us in two seasons time. I am of the opinion  that having run ins like this with the EFL can cost 5 seasons of disruption minimum. Years where you can't plan properly and can't attract the people we need at all levels of the club.

 

To think it's just 1 court case and a few months is naive. In reality our disregard for FFP has already choked up since 2017 and is going to affect the next few years too. 

Very good post - and still Casbah laughs!

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8 minutes ago, scilly owl said:

Who’s running the EFL... Boris ?

They will probably wait to see how we get on at Fulham so that they can deduct the appropriate amount of points to ensure relegation.

They can do that anyway.....up to 21 points, so if they wanted to relegate us they could have already done it....unless they want to do it after the season is ended for some sick reason 

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6 minutes ago, marshy said:

Exactly, wTF it's got to to with Oldham Charlton and Annan is beyond me.

 

Wigan might have a vested interest ;-)

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11 hours ago, Sheff74 said:

 

 

He's already failed more than twice. Hence the current cluster f u c k

 

Some folk never learn.

 

He who dares

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Everything involving us takes ages I swear.

 

Ages to announce a manager, ages to announce a signing, ages to announce whether we’re fecked or not.

 

lol

 

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Just have a bad feeling this ain't going to end well. 

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26 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said:

I expect it will be 9 points. 
 

But if it’s anything that gets us relegated then you can see Chansiri taking this legally all the way to Court for Abitration in Sport. 
 

EFL will want this closed off, with their “authority” in place but no further implications. 
 

Mr Chansiri is nothing if not principled and stubborn. I think he’ll fight his corner extremely hard and won’t back down. 


Going to CAS is not as straightforward as it might seem.

 

CAS will only hear and rule on an appeal arbitration once all domestic means of ‘solving’ a dispute are exhausted and then the EFL would need to agree, as would we, to go to arbitration and abide by CAS’ final ruling.

 

You cannot realistically appeal a CAS ruling. They apply the governing body’s rules in arbitration or rely upon UK national law if it is applicable. You can appeal to the Swiss Court of Appeal but in our case there is nothing in Swiss law that would be enforceable.

 

CAS can give an urgent STAY ruling if, for example, we were relegated, then CAS could order that to be put on hold (if the EFL had agreed to the arbitration in the first place) but any appeal arbitration has a deadline of three months to verdict.

 

To clear this up:

 

We receive a points deduction that leaves us relegated.

 

We appeal to EFL - we lose.

 

We want it to go to CAS - this requires EFL to agree to accept CAS arbitration, which they might do if they face lengthy and costly legal action through the UK courts.

 

CAS order an immediate stay on our relegation - at this point proceeding with next season’s fixture list etc would be nigh on impossible.

 

CAS could take up to three months to rule.

 

Or

 

EFL lose/have lost at independent panel. We stay up.

 

Or

 

EFL impose penalty. Gets member clubs to back them. We go down. We take EFL to court. Could take months/over a year and costs everybody millions.

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3 hours ago, NeonLeon said:

Still not convinced we’ll hear anything until this time next week at the earliest. 

 

Starting to think the same if they were going to announce it today, they would have done it first thing.

 

Gives time for the thread to grow and to evolve.

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8 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

Just have a bad feeling this ain't going to end well. 

I’ve felt like that for a while. Early 80’s it started. 

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If they give us a points deduction this season and we appeal, it could delay the start of next season, we are possibly only 6 -8 weeks away from next season starting and there is no way an appeal would be settled in that time period, that's why i cant see it being applied this season

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