Guest mrbluesky Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Plonk said: I still think his outing of hutch Westwood and FF and his Christmas outburst about getting rid of the players is a good indicator of his personality / management style. Its that attitude that destroyed the morale morale and has led to the post Christmas collapse in my opinion. A more even even handed approach might have kept morale at a better level and achieved reasonable results, and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Even without a points deduction the form and style of football post christmas Christmas has been horrendous, and THAT is his fault, and my biggest issue with him. Good post, and I think it wouldn`t be far off the mark, man management comes in all different guises, from the outside looking in, he`s ruffled a few feathers and it`s kinda back fired, not that I disagree with addressing said issues, it`s that it seems to be a legacy from several managers that he`s (Monk) had to deal with, it may well be he`s the fall guy to clear the decks,then for someone else to come in and have a proper fresh start. That said, Chansiri is a loyal guy and we may end up in this mess again, if it continues, the quicker Chansiri learns there`s no loyalty in football, the better the chance he has of turning this sh itshow around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, penrhyn bay owl said: did you write this post in a cave Not quite sure what you’re getting at? Care to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hearing we’ve won the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hearing we’ve lost the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Gone to appeal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said: True, the sh.!t show on the pitch has got everything to do with him though. Fraud of a “manager”. As I've said previously you cannot expect a manager to come in and do the job without his own management team and own players and expect immediate results We cannot continue on the roundabout of hiring and firing managers at the drop of a hat. That over the last 20 years has got us nowhere. We need to give a manager at least 2 or 3 transfer windows to mould his own side, playing his way. If that fails then fair enough, the flack fired at Monk would be totally justified Someone had to come into the dressing room and change the mentality of the players who have been part of the loosing culture since before Carlos. If that meant getting rid of fans favourites for the greater good of the club then so be it. Yes we have had short term pain whilst this has all been worked through, but now the supposed disruptive influences in the dressing room have all now gone and we can see the start of a little bit more team spirit in the camp I agree the performances since the restart have been a little hit and miss but this is purely because the squad of players we are left with is a mixture of the ones we can't get rid of, kids and loans. Monk is trying to play a new way for the team, which over time and with the right players, is probably the way to get the best out of the players who remain The problem with a lot of fans is that they want things yesterday and are reluctant to give a manager time to build a team and a winning mentality. That doesn't happen overnight 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Right. Todays the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 There’s just something about Monk. Can’t put my finger on it. Just can’t warm to the chap. Dave Jones and Irvine were the same. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: As I've said previously you cannot expect a manager to come in and do the job without his own management team and own players and expect immediate results We cannot continue on the roundabout of hiring and firing managers at the drop of a hat. That over the last 20 years has got us nowhere. We need to give a manager at least 2 or 3 transfer windows to mould his own side, playing his way. If that fails then fair enough, the flack fired at Monk would be totally justified Someone had to come into the dressing room and change the mentality of the players who have been part of the loosing culture since before Carlos. If that meant getting rid of fans favourites for the greater good of the club then so be it. Yes we have had short term pain whilst this has all been worked through, but now the supposed disruptive influences in the dressing room have all now gone and we can see the start of a little bit more team spirit in the camp I agree the performances since the restart have been a little hit and miss but this is purely because the squad of players we are left with is a mixture of the ones we can't get rid of, kids and loans. Monk is trying to play a new way for the team, which over time and with the right players, is probably the way to get the best out of the players who remain The problem with a lot of fans is that they want things yesterday and are reluctant to give a manager time to build a team and a winning mentality. That doesn't happen overnight I started supporting the Owls in 1960. We ended the season as runners up to Spurs. I've been waiting ever since. That's a bit longer than overnight. Lots of fans in a similar situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, MarvelOwls said: It's the thin lips and beady eyes No, no,... thats a monkfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesdaywizard Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, vulva said: There’s just something about Monk. Can’t put my finger on it. Just can’t warm to the chap. Dave Jones and Irvine were the same. Agreed. I can't watch his interviews. I genuinely wish it wasn't the case. I support him in the job nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said: I agree, if I gave him a tenner to fetch some fish n chips he’d come back with a half eaten bag o scraps and claim he got mugged. Thing is if the fans can’t take to him can you the blame the players. Particularly the ones who worked under Carlos and allegedly loved him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well there’s 420 pages so far bet we hit a 1000 after the verdict , wonder which topic has the record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Well there’s 420 pages so far bet we hit a 1000 after the verdict , wonder which topic has the record ? The striker from rotherham we tried to sign and I can’t remember his bloody name 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Still nothing, Farce Edited July 16, 2020 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Maybe we've won. I've just heard that the Owls have re-signed Ross who wants to have another push at promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, vulva said: There’s just something about Monk. Can’t put my finger on it. Just can’t warm to the chap. Dave Jones and Irvine were the same. The Wife's Grandad always used to say, "never trust a bloke whose eyes are too close together" he was usually reyt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, owls-swfc said: Nick De Marco's new watch today - is set at ten past eight.... First of all, the watch has a tachymeter - a device for measuring speed and distance. Whatever is about to happen is about to happen quickly. Most importantly, it's a quartz watch. Quartz is used because of frequency, and the ability to transfer that frequency down to one second to keep excellent time. The frequency is a high number but for mathematicians, it's simply 2 to the power of 15. Summary: 15 points deduction, today. We've lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Well there’s 420 pages so far bet we hit a 1000 after the verdict , wonder which topic has the record ? Do you do a turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedwig Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Manwë said: First of all, the watch has a tachymeter - a device for measuring speed and distance. Whatever is about to happen is about to happen quickly. Most importantly, it's a quartz watch. Quartz is used because of frequency, and the ability to transfer that frequency down to one second to keep excellent time. The frequency is a high number but for mathematicians, it's simply 2 to the power of 15. Summary: 15 points deduction, today. We've lost Well, who can argue with that rationale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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