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2 minutes ago, JC_owl66 said:

when we get the verdict this week

Is anyone sure that it is this week? It just keeps rumbling on like Corrie this bloody hearing. 

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8 minutes ago, daleblue said:

 

And so should be punished, if we don't like the consequences we should not break the rules, simple.

It’s really not difficult is it 

 

 

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Lot of sides manage to stay competitive without troubling FFP, that's the argument against our spending behaviour. We just haven't made enough money on player sales. That's the only way our books will ever meet FFP. 

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4 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


They got promotion and now the guarantee of failure payments...   some punishment 

 

It’s funny isn’t it, how these FFP rules become obsolete when you reach the PL and they can’t enforce them ,  can’t for live of me think why chairmen in the championship may see why it’s worth the risk 

That’s clearly a fault of the system. But once / if relegated they should expect penalties.

 

but why does that suddenly make it right and ok for us to breach rules consistently? You speak about the unfairness of that situation but how is it fair on other championship clubs that run their clubs properly and comply with rules when we act in total disregard of them?

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5 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said:

 

Yes.

You know that as fact?

 

As I see it (which is fact) many of the backroom staff have left over the time DC has been in charge. Meyer didn’t last long. 
 

My impression is DC does wtf he wants and ignores most of the advice he’s given. I have no proof of that, just the stories I hear from people who work / did work at the club. 
 

But if you know different.....

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5 minutes ago, Essix Blue said:

Have they?

 

His FFP Compliance Consultant is Sir Dave Richards.  He advised Leicester, got them up and they paid the fine.

 

Same with Bournemouth.

 

As a rule the clubs who spend the most money get out of this league.  

 

Those coming down have parachute payments and the rest, like us, play with fire under the current rules.

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All this about FFP being totally unfair totally ignore how Chansiri has totally neglected the business and income of SWFC for years. Zero efforts made with corporate businesses, zero effect made with sponsorships, zero effect put into simple and effective revenue streams and nigh on zero effort to sell players or balance in the books. These things in many ways negate the impact and so called unfairness of FFP but our owner has made no efforts in then whatsoever

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1 minute ago, bazapeps said:

All this about FFP being totally unfair totally ignore how Chansiri has totally neglected the business and income of SWFC for years. Zero efforts made with corporate businesses, zero effect made with sponsorships, zero effect put into simple and effective revenue streams and nigh on zero effort to sell players or balance in the books. These things in many ways negate the impact and so called unfairness of FFP but our owner has made no efforts in then whatsoever

 

All of those things make very little difference when set against players’ wages.

 

A bit but not much.

 

He’s not being punished for running the club badly which in your opinion he has.

 

He’s being accused of spending too much money.

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Why is everyone so sure we'll be found to have breached the regulations and deducted points?

 

The EFL set out the charge as follows; The charges are in respect of a number of allegations regarding the process of how and when the stadium was sold and the inclusion of the profits in the 2017/18 accounts.

 

The transaction was lawful, not uncommon to structure property transactions in this way. Furthermore the EFL accept delayed payments for other transactions, i.e player purchases. Therefore reasonable to rely on the information provided by EFL giving permission for the transaction and account for income and expenditure accordingly.

 

The onus is on EFL to prove we've not adhered to P&S rules, unlikely unless they successfully argue that the stadium sale be ignored,  on what grounds? Or, that we've deliberately mislead in our accounts, also unlikely given the other charges were dropped, without merit. 

 

The longer it goes, the less likely EFL to prove their case, or at least have significant mitigation in our favour. 

 

It is strange that a verdict has not been announced, maybe there is a material link to the ongoing Derby case, which may otherwise prejudice that hearing?

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4 minutes ago, bazapeps said:

All this about FFP being totally unfair totally ignore how Chansiri has totally neglected the business and income of SWFC for years. Zero efforts made with corporate businesses, zero effect made with sponsorships, zero effect put into simple and effective revenue streams and nigh on zero effort to sell players or balance in the books. These things in many ways negate the impact and so called unfairness of FFP but our owner has made no efforts in then whatsoever

 

Indeed - I created a thread earlier suggesting it might be time for us to ask Mr Chansiri to leave but the thread was deleted?

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9 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


They got promotion and now the guarantee of failure payments...   some punishment 

 

It’s funny isn’t it, how these FFP rules become obsolete when you reach the PL and they can’t enforce them ,  can’t for live of me think why chairmen in the championship may see why it’s worth the risk 

 

Totally agree, but that is a different to us, we didn't get to the Premier League.

We need to change the rules, it's up to the Clubs in this League to do it, the EFL only implement the rules we all agreed on.

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4 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


That post must have been worded badly , am very much the same train of thought as yourself 

 

The ones wanting DC in a noose can’t explain why he’s innocent of misconduct but should still have book thrown at him for FFP

 

Don't think anything needs explaining, Chansiri has caused his own hanging with his complete bizarre and quite frankly amateurish approach with the clubs finances and running a business

 

Said it before, the fact it even got to the stage of having to sell the Stadium to work around FFP just highlights the mess he has caused after arriving at a club with a clean slate to work with.

 

Throw into the mix...transfer embargoes, fake companies to deal with sponsorship, using Doyen and despite the obvious they were bloodsucking money from the club and even himself, Chansiri still to this day continues to back them and keep them around. Spaffing money around like a child in a sweetshop with no regards to finances or the FFP.

 

Then you have the commercial side of it, cheaply made shirts that are priced as if you were shopping in Harrods, ticket prices which are just eye watering and making it extremely difficult for the average working man to take himself and his family to watch a team of players, on ridiculously high salaries what Chansiri has rewarded them with. The directors boxes are collecting dust and the local business's who we could build relationships with are going elsewhere. 

 

That's just some of the things that has happened in Chansiri's tenure, so please excuse if I don't feel very comfortable knowing our Clubs future is in his hands.

 

But hey atleast we can look back and say we got a big new shiney scoreboard and a giant cake out of it.....

 

 

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3 minutes ago, daleblue said:

 

Totally agree, but that is a different to us, we didn't get to the Premier League.

We need to change the rules, it's up to the Clubs in this League to do it, the EFL only implement the rules we all agreed on.

And the smaller clubs won’t vote for a higher spending limit, for obvs reasons

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6 minutes ago, bazapeps said:

All this about FFP being totally unfair totally ignore how Chansiri has totally neglected the business and income of SWFC for years. Zero efforts made with corporate businesses, zero effect made with sponsorships, zero effect put into simple and effective revenue streams and nigh on zero effort to sell players or balance in the books. These things in many ways negate the impact and so called unfairness of FFP but our owner has made no efforts in then whatsoever


On that note, the only thing he seems to think brings in money is charging fans extortionate match day prices. 

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5 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said:

 

All of those things make very little difference when set against players’ wages.

 

A bit but not much.

 

He’s not being punished for running the club badly which in your opinion he has.

 

He’s being accused of spending too much money.

It largely goes hand in hand.

 

but I have opinion on both aspects; I think his running of the club is utterly disgraceful and I think we should be punished for breaches of EFL rules

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There is a MASSIVE myth that we have somehow spent loads of money and wasted it.

 

We have in the context of OUR recent history but we haven’t in the context of our peers and fuckedup modern football.

 

We are midtable in the Championship.

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