Utah Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: Everyone just needs to relax a bit I reckon Don't do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: I’ve got a lot of time for the owner, but he will take full responsibility (as he should) for any guilty verdict or FFP in general , so the ones coming on here spouting stories to defend him or exonerate him of blame are just either on the wind up or plain daft to be honest I'm not convinced he will, this will go all the way to Court of Arbritration for Sport. Wonder what happens to a points deduction if there are appeals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, jonnyowl said: I'm not convinced he will, this will go all the way to Court of Arbritration for Sport. Wonder what happens to a points deduction if there are appeals! Never said he wouldn’t do anything possible to avoid a deduction, but he will 100% take the blame for the whole issue If there’s a process there to be used , I’d imagine he will use it Edited June 23, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You can already see what's coming just from reading this thread.. Fan vs Fan How sad. It’s an opinion based forum and the majority of us are just speculating right now. If results were going well I think more fans would be more together. So long as the fan vs fan thing doesn’t turn nasty then healthy debate is good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Royal_D said: I’ve got a lot of time for the owner, but he will take full responsibility (as he should) for any guilty verdict or FFP in general , so the ones coming on here spouting stories to defend him or exonerate him of blame are just either on the wind up or plain daft to be honest I don't doubt he is well intentioned but then again isn't that the road to hell? Trouble is he is proud, arrogant and naive. For Wednesday that is a very dangerous combination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Swiss Toni said: It’s an opinion based forum and the majority of us are just speculating right now. If results were going well I think more fans would be more together. So long as the fan vs fan thing doesn’t turn nasty then healthy debate is good. Agreed It's just disappointing to see name calling and mocking creeping in 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Utah Owl said: I don't doubt he is well intentioned but then again isn't that the road to hell? Trouble is he is proud, arrogant and naive. For Wednesday that is a very dangerous combination. Proud, maybe arrogant and maybe naive , but I do still think he has the clubs best intentions at heart though accepts what he can and can’t achieve here now I’ve always said I think there will be a statement about his intentions at the end of this case, and I still think there will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 not too fussed what ever the outcome Just as long as its the end of the matter and we can start again from scratch . ...we are a big enough club to overcome a year or two in the 3rd divison while we rebuild on hopefully on a more solid business plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: I’ve got a lot of time for the owner, but he will take full responsibility (as he should) for any guilty verdict or FFP in general , so the ones coming on here spouting stories to defend him or exonerate him of blame are just either on the wind up or plain daft to be honest That’s not entirely true is it, I for one when we were 90 minutes form the premier league with a squad and the biggest player wage bill we have ever had, backed him to the hilt !!! Ok it didn’t pay off but since then Mr Chansiri has done and doing everything he can to get us promoted. I know I’m not alone, Chansiri has my backing 100%. UTO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Proud, maybe arrogant and maybe naive , but I do still think he has the clubs best intentions at heart though accepts what he can and can’t achieve here now I’ve always said I think there will be a statement about his intentions at the end of this case, and I still think there will be Problem is, he should have changed track after the first embargo to get us back on acceptable financial terms as far as the league were concerned, but instead has tried every trick going to get round the rules. It's the EFL's reaction to that which is going to be the problem. Sooner or later they are going to throw the book at someone. It could easily be us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, kevtheowl said: That’s not entirely true is it, I for one when we were 90 minutes form the premier league with a squad and the biggest player wage bill we have ever had, backed him to the hilt !!! Ok it didn’t pay off but since then Mr Chansiri has done and doing everything he can to get us promoted. I know I’m not alone, Chansiri has my backing 100%. UTO Maybe my post was misleading , wasn’t saying don’t back the owner , but don’t try and defend him against a situation in FFP that’s Ultimately his responsibility and he fine well knows it and accepts it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: That’s not entirely true is it, I for one when we were 90 minutes form the premier league with a squad and the biggest player wage bill we have ever had, backed him to the hilt !!! Ok it didn’t pay off but since then Mr Chansiri has done and doing everything he can to get us promoted. I know I’m not alone, Chansiri has my backing 100%. UTO Lets have it right the shocking and bizarre decisions, the utter recklessness, total lack of strategy and mismanagement really started after full time of the playoff final. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, kevtheowl said: That’s not entirely true is it, I for one when we were 90 minutes form the premier league with a squad and the biggest player wage bill we have ever had, backed him to the hilt !!! Ok it didn’t pay off but since then Mr Chansiri has done and doing everything he can to get us promoted. I know I’m not alone, Chansiri has my backing 100%. UTO Sorry but he broke the financial rules and got us embargoed. Next season more of the same and another embargo, now another season we have this tribunal. That is not the sign of a man who deserves our backing, it's the sign of someone who risks everything to get his own way regardless of the cost, not just to him but others as well. He's had plenty of chances to change his ways and run the club responsibly but for some reason just won't do it. How anyone can continue to back him is beyond me. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, kevtheowl said: That’s not entirely true is it, I for one when we were 90 minutes form the premier league with a squad and the biggest player wage bill we have ever had, backed him to the hilt !!! Ok it didn’t pay off but since then Mr Chansiri has done and doing everything he can to get us promoted. I know I’m not alone, Chansiri has my backing 100%. UTO he as mine as well but that don't mean he's not fecked up big time …..if he's learned from whats happened and still happy to put the money into the club within the confines of FFP then long may he continue ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Utah Owl said: Sorry but he broke the financial rules and got us embargoed. Next season more of the same and another embargo, now another season we have this tribunal. That is not the sign of a man who deserves our backing, it's the sign of someone who risks everything to get his own way regardless of the cost, not just to him but others as well. He's had plenty of chances to change his ways and run the club responsibly but for some reason just won't do it. How anyone can continue to back him is beyond me. Amen no point arguing though as for some they’ll defend him no matter what. I find it utterly bizarre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I will say this re the internal sale of the ground. He sought and took the best legal advice on offer; He gained consent (though now disputed) apparently we have the Paper Work. So I am here to praise Caesar not bury him. Power to your elbow Dejphon take it all the way ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, bazapeps said: Lets have it right the shocking and bizarre decisions, the utter recklessness, total lack of strategy and mismanagement really started after full time of the playoff final. That’s miss guidance, his heart is with Wednesday and he wants the best for us. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, kevtheowl said: That’s miss guidance, his heart is with Wednesday and he wants the best for us. UTO Miss guidance? The blokes been here 5.5 years. At what point does he have to start taking responsibility? Literally unbelievable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Utah Owl said: Sorry but he broke the financial rules and got us embargoed. Next season more of the same and another embargo, now another season we have this tribunal. That is not the sign of a man who deserves our backing, it's the sign of someone who risks everything to get his own way regardless of the cost, not just to him but others as well. He's had plenty of chances to change his ways and run the club responsibly but for some reason just won't do it. How anyone can continue to back him is beyond me. Very harsh mate, hook or by crook he wants the very best for us UTO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxine Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Is it cheeky to ask for a re cap as I can't be arsed to read the full thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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